[00:02] It's very Midwestern. A lot of welps and hopes. Yeah. Was it Puff Daddy? How's he doing?
[00:09] Producer Chris might be the most interesting person you've never met. I don't think I like being touched by strangers. Chris, look that up. You can I'll look it up. I'm on it. You got it.
[00:17] You can look it up. No, I'll look it up.
[00:19] Here we go. We're professionals. Did he have batting cages at birdies? Um, not officially.
[00:26] Yeah, he had shingles. I don't know if that played into it there or not.
[00:30] So, what do you do? You can't possibly do this for a living.
[00:41] Welcome back to your favorite podcast probably. I'm going to say we're probably in the top 10 for most people. It's the Hamco Live
[00:50] Hot Ticket Podcast, season 1, episode 11. By God, we did it. How about a round of applause for that, Chris?
[01:00] We did it. We did it.
[01:04] We are now part of the Get In podcast network. Thank you to Chris uh for
[01:12] providing us with all the necessary sound effects and music so we make this a worldclass production for Nate Spangle
[01:20] and his team over there at Get In Podcast. I am your host Josh Cecil, editor-inchief of hamco.com with me as
[01:26] always by God. He's a national treasure and a global icon. That's Tyler Meechum over there. Tyler, say hello. Good morning, gentlemen. By God.
[01:34] And we went out and we found I said, "Listen, we're part of the Get In Podcast Network. It's time we go out and we get ourselves a whale."
[01:43] I put on my Captain Ahab hat and I said, "I'm going to go get a whale." And by God, we went out. We got a ringer.
[01:49] Well, you came and came out with some salmon. Probably about as good as it gets, guys.
[01:54] Andrew Newport from Live Nation. Andrew, say hello. Good morning. How are you guys? Very good. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. We're have some fun this morning.
[02:02] You uh had a late late night, late morning, early morning. I don't know what you call it.
[02:06] Well, we do that. We're, you know, we are not morning people. So, most people in the business, uh, we we just don't do mornings. So, a lot of late nights. And that's okay.
[02:15] Oh, man. That sounds like my crew right there. Over there behind Video Village, he's switching cameras. He's giving us the sound effects. That's producer Chris.
[02:23] Can we talk about Chris's beard? That's wonderful.
[02:26] We can show it once we get 1,000 subscribers.
[02:28] We said once we hit 1,000 subscribers, we're going to show Chris's face. Right now, he is faceless. He is a disembodied voice, but we're going to put a body on
[02:36] that voice as soon as we hit 1,000 subscribers. We're up to 10 and something. So, that's good news. We're over. Oh, good. Yeah.
[02:44] Uh Chris, say hello. Good morning.
[02:47] All right. Hey. Uh, we started off every Andrew has a new guest here. We started off every podcast just talking about the weekend. We've actually didn't record
[02:55] last week because my week turned into a bit of a storm and uh I had a very busy week last week. So, I had a little
[03:04] meltdown and couldn't couldn't make my way into the studio.
[03:07] We had to try to pry him off the kitchen floor. He was in tears.
[03:10] I was in the fetal position. The kitchen floor is just so cold. It helps.
[03:14] It's going to be okay. Those things happen. There's no shame.
[03:18] How was your weekend, Tyler? Start with you.
[03:19] I or past week, whatever you want.
[03:22] All right. So, I have definitively picked my favorite pizza in Hamilton County. I'm taking notes. Okay.
[03:29] This was introduced to me by What is it and why is it beer brewery? It's It's not. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's number two. I know.
[03:37] Okay.
[03:37] I know. It's the street corn pizza at Pies and Pints. What?
[03:42] Pies and Pints. That's over there in Hamilton Town Center. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Street.
[03:47] There's also one in Caramel. Okay. By the way, at uh whatever that what's the mall over there called? They don't let me caramel. I don't know.
[03:54] I think you're gonna give you a run for your money here. Yeah. On the Sriracha chicken pizza and pes. Same place. Pies and pints.
[04:01] Okay. I didn't have that. That could have been our other half. So, I went there with my significant other and played some Sky Joe. Redeemed myself
[04:08] finally and got the street corn pizza and it was fantastic.
[04:12] Okay. Last time you guys played Sky Joe, you lost five games in a Yeah, as I recall, totally redeemed myself.
[04:19] Was it the street corn pizza, do you think?
[04:21] Could have been. Got me in the right, you know, head space. Sure. To exercise my sky joke.
[04:28] Uhhuh. And what pint did you have with your pie? Uh, I don't know. I think you got to go Mexican logger.
[04:32] Uh, no, I didn't. You could. That would have been good. Yeah.
[04:36] No, there was a They had like some signature IPA or something.
[04:40] Okay. You know what? I decided I can't do IPAs anymore.
[04:44] Why? Well, Friday, I'll talk about my weekend last Yeah. Was it Friday when uh we celebrated Adam's uh Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[04:53] Yeah. Uh our buddy Adam had a birthday and I swung by uh his place after I got off work. So, I had to work Thursday,
[05:01] Friday, and Saturday at beer. And then when I got off, I guess it was Friday.
[05:05] Yeah. Went over and had I had a shift drink. So, working at the brewery, you get a shift drink after your shift is over. And I think I had I think that may
[05:13] have been an IPA as well. And then I had a IPA when we got to Adams. And Saturday I woke up, I just had a headache. Like I
[05:21] wasn't hung over or anything. I missed two beers. This is a very I just had a headache.
[05:25] Roundabout way to say you're getting too old for IPA. I'm getting too old for IPAs.
[05:30] You've outgrown them. I didn't want to say it, but you've aged out.
[05:33] I've aged out of IPAs. I can only have loggers now.
[05:37] Yeah. Yeah. No, there's no, you know, at 60 those things happen though.
[05:42] It's the hops. I think I'm allergic to the hops. Oh, it's an allergy.
[05:46] I think. Yes. Okay. You laugh, but it's a true thing. Like people are allergic to hops. Okay. You're just now discovering that.
[05:54] Well, no. I think I was just younger and I could recover from it or it didn't bother me. Yeah. But I think I'm done with IPAs.
[06:03] That's a bold statement for a Wednesday morning.
[06:05] Yeah, it is. is I think I'd re revisit that later. I'd ease off that just a little bit.
[06:10] And full disclosure, I did have an IPA this morning. So, but it was a citrusy one, which is basically orange juice. Corn flakes and IPA. Got it.
[06:19] They go very nicely. They pair nicely. The alcoholics wedies.
[06:26] Okay. Anyways, I worked all weekend. Oh, we had some good music at uh at beer on
[06:33] uh Saturday cuz it was supposed to be the P& Fest was supposed to be this past weekend, supposed to land on Saturday.
[06:40] We had some storms, but the P& Fest post party was going to be at beer and uh well, they just they had a music book,
[06:48] so they went ahead and did it and actually turned out great. But we had the Moontown Pickle Stompers there doing their jazz. What do you call that? What
[06:56] a pre-rohibition jazz. Prohibition Jazz, Rag Time.
[07:00] Ragtime. Very close. I was very, very close on that. Love that name.
[07:06] Uh, yeah, it was a great name. Um, so they were there and then they were there in the afternoon. In the evening it was Rough House and uh I hadn't heard Ruff
[07:14] House. My buddy AJ plays drums for them and his wife Molly sings. I hadn't heard them play but is Kelly
[07:21] She used to Yeah, Kelly used to be in Rough House but then she started doing her own thing. Yeah.
[07:26] Uh, but they were really good. I mean, cover band, great job. Molly can flat out sing. I hadn't heard her sing and she was like, "Dang." Yeah.
[07:35] So, very good. Um, yeah. And then I think Friday was uh Jennifer Malot again. Uh, another
[07:45] great singer, too. She does some originals and, uh, kind of a country voice. Sort of Paty Klene.
[07:54] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she's crazy. Well played. Yeah. Yeah.
[08:02] She made my brown eyes blue, if you will. Andrew, what'd you do?
[08:08] Oh my gosh, I was thinking about it. Uh, let's see. Friday, kid rock in St. Louis. Okay. Saturday, kid rock in Chicago.
[08:16] Sunday, uh, let's see here. Was on my way to Kansas City and was in Kansas City till about 4:00 this morning. So, that's right. Yeah.
[08:25] It's hall back. We're opening a new venue in Kansas City on June 1st. Um, one of the first big amphitheaters we've opened up in about 22 24 years. So, we're pretty excited about the project.
[08:35] So, yeah, hanging out with the team out there and making sure we got our ducks in a row and ready to rock here in a couple weeks. So, how many will that seat? 16,000.
[08:43] Okay. Is that sort of the standard size for amphitheaters for you guys?
[08:47] Yeah. Listen, I think that's all over the place. I think you look at the market and you look at what the market likes and what it's into and you try to build something that that's right for for the city.
[08:56] What's RUF 24? Okay.
[08:58] Yep. So, were you following Kid Rock as a fan or as a for business? Are
[09:05] what do they call Kid Rock fans that are like parrot heads for Kitties? Kitties. Interesting. I was unaware. Yeah.
[09:13] I don't know. Yeah. Rockies. Rockheads.
[09:16] It was like ball with the ball with the bott with the ball with the babies. Ball with the kitties. Yeah, I don't know. I should ask him.
[09:24] 11 episodes. Ba with the ba has come up at least three times.
[09:27] Too many. A disproportionate amount of time.
[09:31] Uh that's interesting. I bet that's a pretty decent show though. Like stage uh like production wise.
[09:35] I listen I I'm pretty I'm pretty agnostic in terms of what it is. Like I can tell you this. If you if you like it, it's a great show. It's incredible,
[09:44] right? It's high energy. The band is amazing.
[09:47] I bet there's fireworks and pyro pyro everywhere. Yeah, it's a great that goes out with him. No, Josie died.
[09:53] Oh, sorry. Rest in peace. Can you Josie, how's he doing?
[10:04] Yeah. Um, so when you're working at an event like that, how much do you actually see of a show?
[10:14] Not not a ton, right? I mean, listen, if you really look at what I do, um, what do you do? That's a great question.
[10:20] It's a wonderful question. Uh, regional vice president of operations for the for the Midwest. So, I ever see about 16 17 properties across the Midwest. And
[10:29] really, what I say half jokingly all the time is like, if you take all the things that you don't ever want to think about in the
[10:36] music business, that's what that's what I do, right?
[10:39] Gotcha. um if we're doing our jobs really really well, you never know we exist with with some exceptions, right?
[10:46] Like we we coordinate and we plan all the staffing, right? That's a it's a big part of the job. Like if we're not putting really great, fun, exciting
[10:55] people out in front um to help be a part of your concert experience, we're probably not winning. Right. Right.
[11:02] Um so we do a lot of that. We we do a lot of hiring. We do a lot of training.
[11:06] We try to make sure we got the right people that are passionate about what we do. Um, I do that. Um, my team is
[11:15] responsible for making sure that I mean really if if you if you really boil it down in its simplest form, my job is to
[11:23] make sure that the artists, the fans, and the crews that put on the shows have a great time. And sometimes those things conflict with each other. So that's when
[11:31] it gets a little bit um that's that's when we do some of the heavy lifting.
[11:35] But uh listen, we're it's it's funny. You can if you look at um we're we're in the news a lot lately, right?
[11:45] And the story that doesn't get told about us that is unfortunate. We're going to go deep fast here, guys. All right, dive in.
[11:52] The story that doesn't get told is that this company's made up of 30,000 plus part-time seasonal folks
[12:01] that show up and care more than you than any one of us can really fathom. Like these people love coming to work when we're doing it right. We don't always
[12:08] get it right. We always try to make it right. But with 30,000 people that show up every single day, I want to make sure you have a great time and the art and
[12:17] the artist on stage has a great time, right? And the ones that have been doing it a while, they've learned that the
[12:24] band on stage um has a tremendous love for the fans, right? The fans on stage, tremendous love for the art or I'm sorry, fans out
[12:33] in the audience, tremendous love for the for the artists on stage. Crew shows up for each other, right?
[12:40] Like if you ask anybody that worked for us that works for us or has for a long time, like why do you do this? Why do you keep doing this? And I think nine
[12:48] out of 10 10 of them will tell you, I came for the music and I stayed for the people. And they've really developed some really very cool relationships
[12:57] within their buildings and keep coming back year after year um for the fans and for the artist. And it's not like those two things are going
[13:05] to love them back, right?
[13:07] Not the same way that they show up, right? That the fans show up for the artist or the artist shows up for the fans, right?
[13:12] Sure. So I think the missed the missed narrative unfortunately is that there are just a lot of people that care an awful lot about your experience.
[13:21] Yeah.
[13:22] And you know listen hopefully we're kind of to some degree blending into the background. Right. Yeah. Right.
[13:26] I uh I can speak to that a little. I had an employee and every time summer would come around he worked at Ruof and I don't know if he just picked up trash or
[13:35] what he did but every time we all do by the way.
[13:38] Yeah. you know, every time summer would come around, he'd be like, "Hey, I just want to remind you I'm gonna be working part-time. These are the shows I'm working and it was like a like you there
[13:46] was no discussion." Like he had to do it because he loved it and he did it year after year.
[13:50] Yeah. I love that. Right. I mean, I've been doing this for 27 years, right? Like clearly I caught the fever. Yeah.
[13:55] Yeah. I want to talk about that because well, I used to teach at Noblesville High School and I mean there was
[14:02] probably 10 10 15 teachers that would go out to Ruof and work Yeah. summer as you know security or u
[14:12] not valets but what do you call them that help you find your seats or that sort of thing ushers and tickets I mean and selling concessions and that sort of thing.
[14:20] Yeah. I thought, listen, that's another narrative that that gets missed, right?
[14:23] If you look at the amount of money that this community generates for volunteer organizations, right? You're you're north of a million dollars
[14:31] annually going into Indiana elite cheer squads, right? Um football boosters, basketball boosters.
[14:38] So, you know, listen, there things we don't put on the front page of the headlines, but we feel like those relationships in the community are pretty pretty important.
[14:46] Yeah. people like so I don't know if the general public knows about this but my so my friend Stephanie would do
[14:53] concessions and instead of her making money live nation put her I guess pay towards
[15:03] her daughter's cheer program or whatever and maybe she got to keep tips or I don't I don't know exactly what happened but like that's a great way I mean if
[15:11] you have kids that play travel sports like it's expensive and you can do things like this to help offset those costs, which are really cool.
[15:20] Healthcare in America and travel sports, right? I think that's kind of how it stacks up right now.
[15:25] I'm not sure which one's a bigger ripoff. I I'm not here to debate that, right.
[15:29] Like everybody got to invest in what you believe in, right? I'm cool with that.
[15:32] I want to come back to to this conversation, but I want to catch up Chris your weekend because you uh you
[15:39] did a couple cool things. Uh yeah, I we filmed a music video in downtown Noblesville last weekend. That was
[15:47] really exciting for uh for Fousey's new album. Okay, cool.
[15:52] And then um last weekend I didn't do anything cool. Your son's birthday.
[15:59] Uh that was the week that was the weekend prior, I think. Okay. Um and my son's birthday. That's true.
[16:04] Yeah, you got to get that in there. Come on now.
[16:06] But uh it was PEI fest weekend. Uh, so my wife was working pie pie fest all weekend and I was home with the kids.
[16:12] Yeah, dude. Great job, man. They got to go to two days next year, right? Like it seems to that has to be in the conversation. Yeah.
[16:20] So, it got rained out Saturday, but then my ran into my buddy uh Matt at PE Fest on Sunday and he said he was talking to
[16:29] people or talking to merchants on the square that had record days on Saturday, the day it got cancelled. There were still a ton of people out.
[16:35] Yeah. Right. Well, I was driving into work at beer and there were a ton of people at the park.
[16:41] Yeah. I was like, "Wait a minute. What's I thought it was closed. I thought it was rescheduled or whatever." But anyways, they didn't get a job. So, shout out to Kelly McVey and Lindsay McVey and their whole team. They crushed it.
[16:54] That's Ginger and I Ginger and I were talking about this. Is that just like I know that the Pean Fest
[17:02] is not necessar for me. I'm not their demographic. Okay.
[17:08] No, don't get me wrong. I love flowers, right?
[17:11] No, I couldn't pick a peie out of a two flower lineup, but like I just like that it's part of
[17:18] Noblesville. And I mean that was 60,000 or something like that is a crazy number that I heard thrown around. No.
[17:24] Yes, that's the number I heard. I don't know if that's true. 60,000 pianies or 60,000 people? Both.
[17:33] Both. Yeah. 12K combined. It's a P& per person. Wow.
[17:37] Uh but that's just cool. Like for Noblesville, for Indiana.
[17:42] But Jinger and I were talking about like is this just what we do? Cuz she had a friend come over from Ohio, a family friend come over from Ohio and then she
[17:51] was talking with someone at Beer Brewery when she worked Saturday that came up from Tennessee for the festival. So is
[17:58] that just what you do when you get older? Like go to flower festival, start going to festivals? Well, I don't know. You're the one quitting IPA, so you tell us. Yeah. You like the citrus ones?
[18:07] So, I got my refund from the IPA fest up in Milwaukee. I said, "I can't do it." They said, "You getting headaches?" I said, "Yeah." Yeah.
[18:16] Yeah. Well, you've aged out anyways.
[18:19] You know what? I mentioned this to you and and when we were down at the Panie Fest, I I ran into you. Yep.
[18:24] It's like it has this aesthetic of like a Noblesville Kentucky Derby thing. all the girls in the flower dresses and
[18:33] there's like a style to it now and it's a cool thing. Like it's very unique. I like it. It's awesome.
[18:40] We were talking about I think I think we're going to do this next year. Chris, I don't know if I've mentioned this to you. Yeah, Hamco Live is going to sponsor a P& pub crawl the Thursday
[18:49] before the fest just for locals just to give some locals some love, you know. Yeah, I like it. Great idea.
[18:56] Yeah. And we can gather. There's like tons of good bars downtown Noblesville. Anyways, let's go back to you.
[19:04] Oh, danger. All right.
[19:06] When did you start working at Live Nation? You said 24 years. 27 2 First season was 2000. Okay. Yeah. So, long time ago.
[19:14] When you started, what were you doing?
[19:16] Uh, I started in So, like there's the story that I tell a lot of people start in the parking department. Mhm.
[19:23] Technically, I started in security, but was arguably unqualified to actually work inside. So, the only thing like the
[19:32] real bottom of the line is when you just do security in the parking lot. And I'm saying that jokingly. There are a lot of wonderful people that do this job, right? But, um, there was a guy that was at the first orientation that I came to.
[19:44] Uh, his name's Ed Stone. He would be thrilled to hear his name on podcast.
[19:49] And I adore Ed to this day. And Ed had this great stick, right? And he said, "Anybody that wants to work backstage,
[19:56] come see me." And Ed had a little piece of paper in his pocket and he'd come up like, "Yeah, that's cool. I'll try to do that." And he'd write their names down.
[20:02] And those were the people that never worked backstage. I Which by the way, I didn't learn until like 20 years later until Ed and I were out having a beer
[20:10] one night. Um, and so maybe because of that or maybe because I was just young and stupid, it took me a while to kind
[20:18] of um I I arguably put myself in a position um really to get noticed, I guess. But always try to do a good job
[20:26] and we had a lot of fun out there. A lot of really great people.
[20:29] So technically security, but out there in the parking lot.
[20:33] Well, now I worked security. Okay. In let's see, I moved up here. I think this would have been 2003, the summer of 03. Yeah.
[20:41] And I started in the parking lot. Cool. And eventually got to be backstage. Awesome. All in the same season. That's good.
[20:48] Listen, I'm not going to say I was a superstar, but Well, listen, you did. Your track record was better than mine.
[20:54] But I will say this, it's a lot cooler to say you've been backstage than it is to actually be backstage. There's not much going on back there. No. Like I was
[21:02] super excited like, oh, this, you know, this is going to be amazing. And it's mostly just standing around. So, do you have a pass? No. Okay. Well, yeah.
[21:11] Carry on. Well, there's a great meme out there.
[21:13] I'm sure you guys have seen it where it's like what my family thinks I do backstage and it's like all very inappropriate things and then what I really do and it's like
[21:22] four guys in their early late 40s, early 50s just sitting on road cases.
[21:27] It's a lot more the latter than it is the former for sure.
[21:30] The two cool stories I have about working backstage three. One was uh I was working the James Taylor concert and
[21:38] I got to say hi to James Taylor just kind of walking around like looking like a grandpa with his hands behind his back and just walking around.
[21:46] He goes he sees me and gives me a nod say hello. How you doing? Good. You that was it. And then the other one was uh Bonjovi.
[21:56] I got to help them on stage like with the flashlight because stage goes dark and you get to shine them as they were kind of walking up to the
[22:04] stage. That was kind of fun. Uh, but the best one was I was They posted me outside the green room. Uh, this is for The Dead and Bob Dylan when they toured.
[22:16] Yeah.
[22:16] And, uh, so I was outside, I guess, the dressing room for the Dead. I never actually got to see inside it, but I was standing outside and they started
[22:25] warming up and we're just jamming and playing some songs. That's cool. Like, yeah, that was pretty neat. That's neat. Yeah. So, there's stuff like that.
[22:32] It is funny. you walk back and you look around and you're exactly right. It's like, yeah, this isn't this isn't really that cool. Yeah.
[22:39] But what you do pick up on in different fleeting moments are you do pick up on some of the magic. Um,
[22:47] and it it's it's not there all the time, but every now and again you'll just walk through and you'll
[22:54] one of my this a great story. Um, like Gwyn Stefani, one of Gwin Stefani's kids took his first steps out there and they came in and had lunch and they
[23:02] were all super excited about it and like you know and listen I don't have anything to do with her son learning how to walk but but you kind of walk in and you know in
[23:11] some small way maybe you're you know just a part of that by proximity but you do catch up on what I would call like some life moments for artists every now
[23:20] and again and you kind of see the humanity in it and some of that can be very very cool.
[23:24] Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. Can I tell you a quick funny backstory? Yeah. Backstage story. Yes.
[23:30] We were um we were playing with it was either Hoodie or Darius. Solo. I can't remember which one. And we were
[23:38] backstage and down this long, you know, hallway. We We see this guy and I'm with my piano player Joe.
[23:46] Wait, where's this at?
[23:48] I don't remember. Okay. Somewhere in the south. like a club or a No, like it was like an amphitheater thing. And he's like, "Let's go talk to
[23:55] him." I was like, "Okay." And we're getting closer and I'm like, "I think that's him." We get closer and closer
[24:02] and Joe goes up to him and he reaches out and he shakes his hand and he goes, "Hey, I just want to congratulate you on
[24:10] all your success. You know, I think, you know, doing the country thing is awesome. Just, you know, thanks for having us." And I'm looking at this guy
[24:17] and it's it's like a jacked big black guy. And I'm looking at Joe like, "What are you doing?" And the guy
[24:24] walks away and Joe's like, "That was cool." I was like, "That wasn't Darius.
[24:30] That was his bodyguard." Yeah. Yeah.
[24:32] He's with him for a long time. Really good guy. Yeah. Very nice. Very good guy. Yeah.
[24:37] And that was Joe was like mortified after that, but we played with him a few times after that and every time it was just so Joe would just avoid him at all
[24:46] costs. It's great. That's funny. Did you ever get to tell that story to Darius? No. That's hilarious.
[24:52] I uh that same dead Dylan tour I was backstage and uh Dylan was playing and
[24:59] they had a section off to like if you're on stage off to the right that was like hearing impaired and so they had a
[25:08] person doing sign for a small group of people there. I'm backstage and this person comes running
[25:15] back and trying to find the tour manager or whatever. Um, and I overhear like
[25:22] what's going on. She needs lyrics to the song because she can't understand anything Bob's saying.
[25:31] That's funny. He's a legend. He's earned that.
[25:34] Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um, so you were there when I was there. Were you still in security in 03? Because you may have
[25:41] hired me. Man, I'd have to go back and think about that a little bit. Um, I did security for a couple years, interned
[25:49] for a year. Um, I kind of one of our our security director there when I was there, he went on tour with a couple bands. So, I covered him for a summer.
[25:58] He came back. Um, became the operations manager. I did that for
[26:05] gez probably six, seven years. And, um, became the GM in 2010. and did that until So, you got to see a little bit of everything.
[26:15] There is not a lot, man. One of the things that we've been really good at at the music center over the years is we
[26:24] have just attracted some wonderful people. Um, I can't sit here and tell you that I've done everything. Done most
[26:31] of it. Um, but there's a handful of things, hard work that uh there's some really good people that helped us Yeah. get some of that done over the years.
[26:38] But yeah, I mean, listen, cleaning bathrooms, picking up trash. Sure. You name it, we've we've been there.
[26:44] It's pretty cool. Like, so when you're working security, um, like I said, I started in the parking lot and then moved to inside.
[26:51] That inside portion, when that concert is over, everybody floods the lawn. You start at the top, just work your way down picking up trash. Like, it's impressive like how quickly it goes.
[27:03] Yeah, I should we should get a time lapse. I've got one somewhere. But another untold story, right? Like, yeah, you had 250, 300 people pick that lawn
[27:11] up in less than 40 minutes, right? And but that's like that's cool because nobody wants the place to be dirty,
[27:18] right? The cool part is everything that comes off that lawn gets sorted and recycled and diverted out of the waist stream, right? So, like
[27:27] some night we'll sell ton of of aluminum cans. Those things get sorted out, they get recycled. Um compost, it's compost,
[27:35] right? Like all the food waste is composted. All the all the boxes that the t-shirts come in get recycled. Like
[27:44] last year, if I remember correctly, 83% of the waste that came into the building was diverted from the waist stream and recycled. That's impressive.
[27:51] So like those are things we just don't talk enough about. But um like man like but it just speaks to
[27:59] man like if if we can get the right the right folks to come out and believe in what we're doing we can do some really great stuff with some really great
[28:07] people and that's that's a really good example. Well, our I mean, we're talking about RUAF, FKA, Deer Creek.
[28:15] Uh, it's been the best performing amphitheater for how many years
[28:22] in in Live Nation's port amphitheater portfolio? Noville does really really well for us.
[28:27] Um, I think there are a lot of reasons for that, but one of my favorite and listen, it's it's anecdotal. One of these days I need to prove this out on
[28:34] paper, but one of my favorite things about going out there now is on the right night, we can get three
[28:42] generations of this community in the building together in the same place. And I remember like the first time I saw the show out there with my dad and my brother, right?
[28:51] Well, was like on the right show on the right night, I can get my dad and my brother and my kids. Yeah. Right. And like Yeah.
[28:58] Right. mom comes out, my wife comes and like we're we're three generations deep on the same night experiencing the same
[29:06] thing I did out there 30 years ago. Um and that's what like you talk about magic magic behind the stage like that's a really big deal I think right
[29:15] when you can bring people together like that. Well, it's interesting that you say that because uh Noblesville Mayor Chris Jensen posted I think it was this
[29:23] past summer or maybe the summer before he took his mom to I want to say the Rod Stewart show. Yeah.
[29:30] Because she took him to see Rod Stewart for his first concert or something. It was like her first concert. I forget
[29:37] the exact nature of it, but it was just cool. Like stories like that.
[29:41] We love those. We love that. Right. I got to take my kids to Imagine Dragons and Mumford and Sons. Like that's pretty cool. It's awesome.
[29:49] Yeah. Yeah.
[29:50] Yeah. We love those. We love that. And that that's part of I think that's part of the success is like in a lot of communities sometimes the amphitheaters
[29:58] are not um they're not always held in super high regard, right? They're more viewed as like traffic or noise or this that and the other. like Noblesville and
[30:07] Indianapolis have have really embraced that place and we've been we've done the very best we can to be very good stewards of that over the years.
[30:15] Well, I think you're doing a great job. I love going to shows out there. Tell your friends. We appreciate it. We appreciate that.
[30:22] Well, I wanted to bring something up to you. Yeah. Blue Dot fever. Blue Dot fever. Hot topic right now. Have you heard of blue fever? Familiar.
[30:29] Chris, do you know what blue dot fever is? No clue.
[30:31] I don't know if this is going to be off topic or not. Like this. We can talk about this. Well, I think it's just super interesting because I don't I don't think the general public actually
[30:38] understands what's causing it from from what stuff I've read. So, blue dot fever is uh it comes from like looking if
[30:46] you're buying concert tickets and you look at u you know a map of available seats or whatever they're blue dots, right? And so
[30:55] some concerts like Post Malone and Jelly Roll, I think, have really scaled back their touring due to poor ticket sales
[31:04] or something like that. And they're calling that blue dot fever because the the artists see that the tickets aren't selling, right? And they
[31:12] say, "Okay, we need to switch venues or cancel or limit dates or something." That's kind of the synopsis of and they say, "I'm sick." or they come
[31:21] up with reasons instead. Some of them will say, "Hey, ticket sales are low." Yeah.
[31:25] But some people are like, "Yeah, I've got some other stuff. We're going to reschedule." Right. But there's like a whole macroeconomic level to this. Gas is more expensive. Groceries are more expensive.
[31:34] So people are scaling back on what they can afford. But artists can't. So artists set the price on tickets. Is
[31:43] that correct? Uh from what I'm reading. Um, listen, artists get paid to play a show, right?
[31:50] Based upon the number of tickets you think you'll sell to it, right? So, you get the artist is going to get paid when they're coming to town, right? And they
[31:58] should, sure, right? Like no beef with that.
[32:01] Um, but ticket price is a function of artist fee.
[32:04] Okay. So I think people
[32:11] what do people not understand about how those fees are set
[32:18] from like Live Nation like everybody everybody wants to blame Live Nation and it's it's there's so much more
[32:27] complexity to that than what people realize.
[32:30] Yeah. I mean listen I don't know that I'm gonna fix any of that today. Um, and listen, if I could have a relationship with every single ticket buyer along the
[32:38] way, I would. I really I mean that, right? Like, if we could actually walk you through and answer your questions
[32:44] and really um be ambassadors um on the front end of that experience
[32:51] the same way that we are like when we're actually delivering that experience.
[32:54] Like I would have figured that out already, right? We we have to our job really is to put the right band in the
[33:02] right room at the right time. Right. And if we're doing our job well, um we're we're really we're working hard for the
[33:10] artist to make it worthwhile to get off the couch and go out on the road. Right.
[33:15] Excuse me. Blue Dot Fever. Don't believe the hype, right? And I would tell you two or three things about Blue Dot Fever. one
[33:24] right now for 2026 less than 1% of the shows that are out on the road have been cancelled or postponed, right?
[33:33] And for any myriad of reasons. That's all the reasons. That's not just blue dot fever, right? So, um, we're at or
[33:40] below what we would normally see in any other year right now.
[33:45] Two, nationally, ticket sales are up 11% over year over last year. So, we're not
[33:52] panicking, right? And then if you look at let's let's use Indie as an example as well. Shows here are selling great.
[34:00] We're going to have a great summer.
[34:01] We've got we're going to do 40 shows at the Music Center. We're going to be north of 30 at White River State Park.
[34:07] The Old National Center does 300 gigs a year. Like, we're feeling okay. Um, and listen, but we always judge our success
[34:15] by what the fans tell us. And the fans vote. Um they they we they vote with their wallets.
[34:21] They vote with their wallets. They vote with the feedback that they give us right after the fact. And right now we're feeling pretty good about 2026.
[34:30] Yeah. Got some good shows lined up. Uh Melanchamp. I'd like to go see Melanchamp. Um Black Crows.
[34:38] Like to go see Black Crows. Yeah.
[34:40] Willy's uh touring. Well, last Willy's amazing.
[34:45] He ain't drinking no IPAs. I'll tell you that much. No, he's got his own kind of beverage. He's That's true. Well, maybe. Yeah.
[34:51] Yeah. I think that Melon Camp show is going to be magic. Listen, they all are, right? To some extent, but guy hasn't played out in the amp with the exception
[34:58] of Farade in a long time. And I think anybody that caught that Farade set um was pretty special.
[35:05] And he's doing the hits like he's not coming out here, you know.
[35:09] Yeah. That's why everybody wants Yeah.
[35:11] Yeah. That'd be a good three generation show. Totally. 100%.
[35:15] Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I bet you're going to have a lot of that. Yeah.
[35:18] Um, so don't believe the hype, right? Like don't believe the hype.
[35:21] Yeah. I mean, it's I think there's a a lot of snowballing narrative out there right now, but listen, right, demand is good. We're seeing fans buy tickets.
[35:30] We're excited about the summer. We're going to stay focused on that.
[35:33] I was reading too on this blue dot fever thing, the whole thing with um artists setting prices based on what
[35:42] they can sell a ticket for. So, what artists hate is when scalpers come in and buy tickets and then go sell it on
[35:50] the secondary market knowing that people will pay exorbitant amounts, you know, because some people
[35:58] have the money. But like that's just a tough spot to put anyone in, whether it's Live Nation, the artist, whatever.
[36:04] Like the scalping is out of hand.
[36:09] Yeah. Listen, I need to be careful not to be a sound bite right on the on the New York Times or anything.
[36:16] I don't think they're listening. I listen, you never know, man. You get the right day. Uh it's easy to go viral nowadays if you say the wrong thing. But
[36:24] I here's what I would tell you. Um art artists want to play for fans. Yeah.
[36:31] Right. And listen, there there are people that out that are out there that scalp tickets.
[36:37] They're that are good people. They're just a business. They're just trying to make a living, right?
[36:42] Um, and again, I think for us, our position is like we have to be great partners with the artists, right?
[36:51] And there are a lot of different artists that probably feel differently about how their tickets get sold. And we're listen, we always want to make sure
[36:59] we're great partners for the artists and the fans, right? But what do we hear?
[37:03] What do we hear when tickets get scalped? We hear a couple things. There are a lot of people it it is funny because
[37:12] people I think sometimes get frustrated if they pay a high price from us but sometimes that same group of folks and
[37:21] listen this is these are highlevel generalities right so I need to figure like every individual important and everyone likes their own way of doing things but
[37:30] um but if they were to buy that same ticket at a high price from a scalper that's okay because it's just not Right.
[37:39] And so I think there, you know, I I think maybe it's a complex business. It is, right?
[37:45] And so, you know, you you use the term general public a little bit earlier and I mean, listen, I've sat out in front of the box office and I've helped to
[37:53] resolve many, many, many issues with scalp tickets, right? I think the one thing that I would say about dealing with
[38:02] scalp tickets is like when you buy a ticket from a scalper um or or a reputable broker, some of them do stand behind what they say,
[38:10] right? Like those people are not going to be at the venue to solve your problem. Right. Right.
[38:15] I am. And whether you bought a ticket from so and so or whatever, you bought a ticket from me, like you're still a fan coming to a
[38:23] show. And so even though I might not have a free ticket to give you, like nine times out of ten, we're gonna find
[38:30] a way to get you into the gig um and try to be a good partner. Yeah.
[38:34] But that doesn't fix the frustration maybe with that initial purchase. So you know, there's a lot of misconception. there's a lot of um
[38:43] there's a lot of misdirection unfortunately and I think it does make it hard for the consumer for the fan um
[38:49] to really get to the heart of the matter fast and so you know listen we're always through the um all-in pricing we think
[38:58] has been a great thing to help just be very transparent with Is that nationwide or is that okay okay yeah so yeah listen it's complicated but
[39:08] you know but if you're ever in doubt pick the phone and call us. Yeah, we'll talk to you. We'll walk you through it. Really? We don't mind that.
[39:14] Yeah. The interesting thing that I've been learning lately, so we're booking a show. I can't say too much about it yet. We're not ready to announce it.
[39:23] It's a big deal.
[39:24] Um out at the I can't even say I don't even know about this. You don't know about? Oh, I'm not in the LLC. That's why.
[39:32] Uh but in finding the artist, here's the thing I didn't know. So, an artist has a guarantee, right? So, they're going to
[39:40] show up for whatever that is. But most of the headlining acts also take, and there's a term for
[39:48] it. I can't remember off the top of my head what it is, but take a percentage of ticket sales after cost or after
[39:56] Yeah. after cost. Um, so me as the promoter, I'm looking at this
[40:03] and like I had a guy, one of the agents, CAA maybe said, "Yeah, like most of them are going to take like 85% of tickets
[40:12] after cost," which, you know, I start running the numbers like, "Oh, that's like that leaves me with a couple thousand dollar for, you know, a big
[40:21] risk, a year's worth of effort on my part to pull all this together." And I was like,
[40:28] "Oh, so venues are making like places like the Vogue and Hive VHI for sure are making their money off of food and bev um and maybe
[40:38] taking a percentage of merch or whatever." Like, but I don't own the venue. So, like it's a that's a tough
[40:46] tough nut to crack right there. Like that's super interesting. I don't think people people definitely don't know until they start trying to book talent.
[40:54] Listen, I'll play for half of whatever they're offering.
[40:59] I've been in bands. I can appreciate that. Right. I'll give you 10% of the talent for half the cost.
[41:06] That's great deal. Really, I'm no matter, but Right. It pencils out just fine, I promise.
[41:13] But so much of the money for these shows comes in from food and bev, which I guess makes I don't know if that holds true at bigger venues. you know, the
[41:22] more you go up, that's probably less true, but I think it holds true everywhere. I mean, listen, you it's
[41:30] the the economic uh the economic problem is an interesting one to solve for, right? Because listen, if I'm if I'm in
[41:38] a band and I'm hitting the road this summer, my costs are going up too, right? Like putting buses and trucks on the road is not cheap.
[41:45] It used to cost like $1,000 a day for a bus and now it's like 3,000 or something like that.
[41:50] Yeah. I don't know. You got to figure out. I mean, listen, I know fuel is more expensive and if you're going from Indie to Chicago cost twice as much as it did
[41:57] two, three months ago, and that's whatever, you know, um, but to find good people that want to go on the road, right? It it is funny. I
[42:05] think a I think I don't want to say a misconception, but because the business is cool does not um
[42:14] uh does not negate us from paying our own bills. Right.
[42:17] Right. Like I still have to pay power bill, still have to pay property taxes, right? the band still has to pay uh they have to pay taxes, right? They have to
[42:24] pay the bus drivers. They have to pay there's a there's a real economy around what these folks are doing. I mean, listen, for for us,
[42:33] I mean, listen, big tour, you got have 50 75 people on the road, right? Yeah.
[42:37] 10 12 people a bus, you got six buses rolling, right? Like, yeah, it's a lot of diesel fuel.
[42:43] Um, you know, so like artist costs are going up, too. And you know, listen, I don't I if If it
[42:50] were up to me, like we'd have an affordable ticket price for for everything. And listen, I think we do.
[42:56] We offer a lot of really affordable options.
[42:58] You guys always do the uh like lawn packages and we just finished up a huge like $30 promotion. We're looking at some other
[43:07] stuff. And the problem is that art is subjective, right? And the value of what you're
[43:14] willing to pay for art highly subjective, right? Um, and so I have my I have this conversation with my son all
[43:22] the time. He's 16 years old. Um, very intuitive kid. He's he's kind of on the on the the outskirts of the business a
[43:30] little bit. And he's like, I just can't believe that like this costs this. And I'm like, I hear you, bud, but like let's matt that out just a little bit. And let me show you what that looks like.
[43:39] And at the end of the day, your favorite artist, he talks about geese. He loves geese. We talk about these guys all the time. and and listen really innovative band doing
[43:49] a lot of really cool stuff. Um he's like I should be able to go to that show for this.
[43:54] I was like well maybe maybe you should right but the band couldn't afford to go on the road if that's what they charged
[44:03] everybody. And so like I'm not telling you that you're wrong cuz that's how you feel about it, right? But at the end of the day there is nobody's getting off the couch for free, right?
[44:13] those guys are running businesses just like everybody else. And unfortunately when you start to think about it that way. Um sometimes some folks get turned
[44:23] off, right? Like no, it's not business, it's art, you know what I mean? And both are true, right? Yeah. Yeah. The show business.
[44:31] Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
[44:33] I mean that's even true at uh you know the micro level for the local band like
[44:40] Yeah. We used to play in a fivepiece and so we weren't making any money so we got three guys.
[44:46] That's exactly right. Yeah. I mean there's five of us and we paid our sound guy so there's six. We paid our sound
[44:53] guy 200 and then you know we'd split 300 between five of us. So it's you know less than whatever that is 60 bucks or
[45:01] omething like that for a five hour night plus you know plus rehearsals. Plus rehearsals, plus moving the gear, right? And all the
[45:10] marketing, plus the agitation on your wife, right? All of that is real. Yeah.
[45:14] Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. Um, let's get into uh top five. Let's go take a break, Christopher, and we'll come back.
[45:23] We'll go look at the calendar. Uh, if you haven't been to hamco.com, go check it out. has all the live music, including everything out at RUF uh at
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[46:21] You can check out all the live music happening all across Hamilton County.
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[46:31] We're not going to spam you. We're Hamco, not Spamco.
[46:36] But seriously, we won't spam you. Hey, we're going to take a quick look at the calendar. I'm just looking at the next three days here. Thursday, that's tonight. You've got Pistol Pete at Sids
[46:44] doing some acoustic solo stuff. You've got the Beatless. They're like a Beatles tribute, Beatles cover band at Beer
[46:51] Brewery in Noblesville. And Bailey and Smith are playing at Urban Vines, a great guitar based duo out there at
[46:59] Urban Vines. Looking ahead to Friday night, live music in Hamilton County. No matter where you are, there's live music
[47:06] to be found. Go check out hamgolive.com for the most comprehensive listing. But let's just highlight a couple. My friend, my new friend Molly D. Rose, you
[47:14] heard me talk about Rough House earlier in the podcast while he's the lead singer. She's doing a little solo gig with piano out at Spencer Farm Winery.
[47:23] Austin Johnson will be at the Boat House in Cicero. That's the Boat House Swan Dive right there off of Morse Reservoir.
[47:30] You sit out on the patio. You overlook Morse Reservoir. The sun's setting.
[47:35] Austin Johnson's playing great music. It is a great place to catch live music here in Hamilton County. If you're in Caramel, you should go check out the
[47:44] Naptown Hepats. That's a great rockabilly trio. They're playing at Union Brewing Company. For more, go check out the calendar at hamgolive.com.
[47:53] And on Saturday, again, great music all over Hamilton County. I was just looking at the calendar. So much going on on Saturday. Go to hamgolive.com, check out
[48:02] the full calendar. But just pointing out a few here. Our friends Rhino Down.
[48:06] They're playing at Grand Junction Brewing Company in Westfield. That is a great stage. They're a great band. Go check that out. Elizabeth Lee doing some
[48:14] acoustic solo work at Peace Water Winery in Fisers. You got the Regulators.
[48:20] They're going to be at the local pub and ery there just off of 146th Street and I believe that's Gray Road. Technically, I
[48:29] think that's Westfield, but it's almost Caramel, almost Noblesville, sort of right there amongst all of them. Uh,
[48:36] looking at Fisers, Britain Tavern. That construction is making things a little hard to to manage, but it's you can still get to Britain Tavern very easily.
[48:46] Um, just give yourself a little extra time. That's all. Go check out the Nerdy Vandals. They're going to be playing at uh Britain Tavern. That's some of the
[48:54] live music just happening in Hamilton County. Go to hamcolive.com, sign up for the newsletter, and check out the full calendar. Now, let's get back to the show.
[49:03] Hamco live.
[49:05] Hamco live top five. Hamco live top five. Hamco live top five.
[49:14] Coming right back with the Hamco live top five in honor of our guest Andrew Newport from Live Nation. We thank him for taking the time away from opening up a new venue in Kansas City, Missouri.
[49:25] Missouri, right? Not Kansas.
[49:26] Kansas City, Missouri. Riverside, Missouri.
[49:28] Is there a Kansas City, Kansas? There is. Okay. It's like the nexus of the universe.
[49:33] That's very confusing. Which one has the barbecue? I think both. Okay.
[49:38] I've had a lot of good barbecue out there.
[49:40] That sounds nice. I could go for some barbecue. Hey, new barbecue joint opened up here in Noblesville. Blue Smoke. Anybody been yet? No.
[49:47] Might have that for breakfast this morning. Sounds wonderful. Yeah. Nice IPA to wash that down.
[49:53] Very productive day. Uh, in honor of our guest here, uh, we're going to do top five concerts at Ruof, FKA,
[50:04] Klitchch, FKA, Verizon when I worked there. FKA, Deer Creek, I think it was Deer Creek, then Verizon. I don't really know the history of it.
[50:11] Deer Creek, Verizon, K Clipch, Ruof. Okay, I had it right. There you go. Top five concerts you've seen at Ruof.
[50:19] We're all picking two, right?
[50:20] Picking two and we're going to narrow it down. Okay.
[50:22] I'm excited to hear this actually. I love these stories.
[50:25] So, I kind of thought about this in two different ways. Do I go with like personal experience, which would be unique to me, or do I go with something
[50:33] that's more like un everybody would say, "Oh, that was a great concert." Yeah. So, I don't know. I'm I'm doing one of each.
[50:40] Okay. All right. You kick us off there.
[50:43] So, purely on like a musical level, what I just thought was an awesome build. It was probably 98.
[50:52] It was Foo Fighters and Ben Folds 5.
[50:54] Oh, what a unique combo. I know.
[50:57] Did Ben come out and play? Who opened for who?
[51:00] It was surely Ben opened for Foo Fighters.
[51:03] Did he come out and play some keys with the Foo Fighters?
[51:06] No, he didn't. Um, but I mean because they have beef. I don't think they have beef.
[51:11] I think I think him and Gro don't get along. No, really. Is that real? I don't know. That's how rumors get started.
[51:18] But that's how you get a thousand listeners. clickbait.
[51:24] Uh, no real story other than it was a cool lineup. Like Ben Folds rocked but in his own way and the Foo Fighters came
[51:32] out. It was just a weird combo but it totally worked.
[51:35] Wonderful musician. Wonderful guy. Yeah, Foo Fighters on my list of bands I haven't seen yet I'd really like to see.
[51:42] They're playing Bourbon and Beyond on Thursday. I may go down for that. I don't know.
[51:49] All right. I'm interested to hear yours because you've had to Well, I don't know if we can say you've seen him.
[51:56] Do you feel like you get to see him if if you're working?
[51:59] Been on site for more than a thousand shows out there. Holy moly.
[52:03] Um, which is a lot of nights. I don't even know what summer's like. Really? I allegedly people have like boats and things like this at cookouts. It's a concept I'm familiar with.
[52:13] Um, man, listen. Okay, so I'll I'll hit it from a couple different angles. I give you maybe personal moments and uh maybe just musical moments I guess or
[52:23] professional moments. Um, I remember uh was one of the first, this is funny.
[52:29] Listen, you were already working inside because you were a big deal, but I finally got asked to come inside and work.
[52:34] And it was um, it was a Mayday, one of the X103 103 Mayday shows, and Stone Simple Pilots had just
[52:44] released the album for I think it was four, the black the black cover, I can't remember.
[52:50] And um it was just one of the most electric starts beginnings of a show that I can
[52:57] ever remember. And the band comes out and the song was down. I remember most I listened to it like a million times that summer because I thought it was so good.
[53:06] Uh, and I'll do it horrible justice, but like if you if you listen to the song, there's just this great big loud guitar and drum intro and was nothing but
[53:16] strobes for this. And then everything stops and then there's this vocal part, just this isolated vocal part. And Scott
[53:23] Wyland was in leather pants, no shirt, he had the megaphone.
[53:29] Yeah. and he was just like foot up on the monitor and he had those like he kind of had that MC Jagger Jaggerish
[53:36] and he just did it and he's just on that megaphone just like this and I'm like holy Yeah, okay. This is a rock show. Yeah.
[53:44] Um and I will I will never remember that. I will never forget that. Um just an incredible electric the place was sold out. It was race day weekend. It
[53:53] was like I was like okay Indianapolis month of May. This is everything that this should be about.
[54:00] The crowd was electric. It was a lot of fun. That's a good one.
[54:02] Christopher. Oh, yeah. No, we'll come back to you. Second one. Christopher.
[54:06] Uh, the act that I've seen the most at Deer Creek is Dave Matthews. Awesome.
[54:13] Do you have a particular Dave Matthews band experience? No.
[54:17] And are you excited now that Hackey Sacks are back? I have to, as a Dave Matthews fan, I have to assume you're super into hackey. And I had friends in
[54:25] in high school who would who would make me go every year to the Dave and and I mean it was enjoyable but it was it was their show and I and I was I tagged along.
[54:35] I think you can lump all Dave Matthews shows into one category.
[54:39] I mean I I thought about those because those are some of my some fun times in high school get dropped off at a Dave show.
[54:46] Yeah, those were fun. Yeah.
[54:48] Wonderful group of folks. Wonderful group of fans. It's always a great couple days. We love working with those guys. It's like it's like an annual like
[54:55] family reunion. The crew is a great crew. They're just it's uh it's always a really nice two days to have those guys in town.
[55:02] When I worked there, I think it was it was either them or Fish told whoever uh like maybe you, maybe one of
[55:11] the other management people. Uh, and then they told us in like a team meeting kind of thing that whoever it was, Dave
[55:18] or Fish said this is their favorite place to play because of the staff. Oh, cool. Pretty cool.
[55:25] Fish F fish had a manager for a long time and um he he one day he he said to a group of people, I just happened to be there.
[55:32] He's like, I love like whatever it is in the water in Noblesville, we need to get it everywhere. Because he was like, the staff is always smiling. Everybody backstage is always
[55:40] kind of fish. That's just one of the biggest compliments anybody could pay us. We just want people to feel welcome and have a great time. Listen, we just want the only It's so funny, right? Like
[55:49] the only I've spent 27 years of my life, my entire adult life trying to get people to love that place as much as I
[55:56] do to some degree. It's probably an unhealthy goal, right? But um you know, listen, that place was always magic to
[56:04] me going to shows growing up. And so, you know, I know may it may not seem that way to everybody, but we spent a long time, a lot of hours
[56:12] sitting around just trying to figure out how to make that a better experience for people. Yeah. Paying off. We're trying. Work is never done.
[56:22] Uh, quick trivia question. This is not the official trivia game, but it's just trivia question. Who was the first artist to play at the amphitheater? Does anybody know?
[56:32] Oh, man. Oh, I read this recently. It's well publicized. Mhm. It's not what you might think though.
[56:40] The Beach Boys.
[56:41] No. Even more obscure. Not Not that the Beach Boys are obscure, but Do you know? You have to know. I do.
[56:50] All right. Tell us. Sandy Patty. Sandy Patty. Oh, I know this. Crazy. Sandy Patty.
[56:54] Yeah. You're an Anderson guy. You should know this. Indiana zone. Yeah. Absolutely.
[56:58] Uh, okay. My uh top concert I'm gonna throw out there. This was 05, I want to say. Uh, Black Crows opened, but Tom
[57:06] Petty was the headliner. Oh, man. This is the infamous one where the power cut out on Refugee and then came back on. Like, so the
[57:15] crowd start was just singing along to Refugee. Power cuts out. Mike Campbell talks about it in his book that we read. That's cool.
[57:21] Um, power cuts out, crowd keeps singing, power comes back on and they're like right on beat. Oh, which is really cool.
[57:29] Still gives me You saying it gives me chills to this day.
[57:33] Yeah, that was wild. That was really cool. Yeah.
[57:35] All right, Tyler, what's your second one?
[57:37] Okay, so the first one was just concert purely about the the performers. The second one is more about um a personal
[57:47] experience. Uh you mentioned there were all there's always concerts that you know have a very affordable ticket
[57:54] prices. Well, when we were maybe 17, 16, we found some Destiny's Child tickets for pretty cheap.
[58:04] Awesome. You guys were awfully bootylicious. Right.
[58:09] So, we went and I I think we took some girls with us or something, but I would hope so. The the point of it was
[58:18] we would go around in the parking lot and when the concert was getting out, we would sell our burned CDs of our band in
[58:27] the parking lot. We just go up to cars and say, "Hey, do you want to buy a CD?" And they're like, "I don't know who you are." Or, "Put it in the CD player.
[58:34] Listen to it." And we would just drive around and sell CDs after the concert. I mean, we made 20 bucks that night. Yeah. And we felt like rock stars.
[58:43] There's an outstanding tax bill on that somewhere. Destiny's child. You love the hustle.
[58:52] Meanwhile, the girls are in the car saying, "Can we leave you?" Yeah, I know. Uh, all right. Give me a second one.
[58:58] Second one. Um, let's see here. Um, Tim, we did Tim McGra show one day. I don't know. Some Sometimes the the beginnings of the shows, I guess, stick out of me.
[59:07] A Tom Petty show was out of control. I still have the poster from that show on my wall in my basement. that exact show.
[59:12] Um Tim McGraw did a show one day and it was really kind of the beginning of the video wall era. He was one of the first
[59:20] guys that had this whole the whole wall and he started the show out like in the mix. So he was in a road case and they rolled him out and nobody knew, right?
[59:30] It was super low. It was super high tech back then.
[59:33] But the beginning of the show I will never forget was so cool. It kill the lights. LED walls. Just this bus, an old Eagle tour bus way off in the distance
[59:42] in the desert and it just you just see the road. This thing probably drives at you for like 2 minutes and then finally
[59:49] the bus like turns and so you're seeing the side of the bus with the door and the band opens up a door in the video
[59:58] wall that is aligned with the door on the bus and the band walks out. Right. I thought so. and they start playing Tiny
[01:00:05] Dancer and Tim jumps up out of the mix and everybody's losing their minds and I was like, "Okay, this is pretty cool.
[01:00:12] This is a really good start to the show." Um, but man, like you could go through the laundry list of shows. Like
[01:00:18] I think over the years for me it became less about who was on stage and more about
[01:00:27] um who was out with them, right? we really start to make friends on tour and you kind of keep in touch with people and
[01:00:34] um you develop those relationships and so like every year you see some old buddies and it's a lot of fun. But listen, professionally,
[01:00:43] um, man, it's so funny. I the line I use I I should never insert a band name, but like I say a lot, it's
[01:00:52] it's it's never the days. It's never the nights where it was like 70 degrees and sunny that you look back and remember, right?
[01:00:59] We did a lot of those. We had a lot of really great nights that were just like that, right? It's the ones where the power went out
[01:01:06] and you learn from it and you get better and you review and you figure out all right, what did we do right? What did we do wrong? How do we get better? And um I
[01:01:15] said one of our friends retired a couple years ago and I told him I was like listen man I wouldn't wish some of the things we've been through together on anybody.
[01:01:25] But going through those things they made us better and they made us stronger and the resilience I think is speaks largely
[01:01:33] to the culture um that we've tried to create out there.
[01:01:36] But really those are the things that also like made us friends um and the reason you keep coming back. So, and listen, we've had our fair share of pretty rough nights out there.
[01:01:46] Um, but it it really it's the it's the hard. No, nobody sits around and tells war stories around the campfire about like, oh man, they played my favorite
[01:01:54] song at that one show. Well, yeah, of course they did. That's their job, right?
[01:01:57] You sit around and you're really like, oh my god, remember how bad that was?
[01:02:01] It's It's like the same thing that makes a road trip memorable or you know, nothing went wrong and we got there in record time.
[01:02:08] Yeah, that's not interesting. Yeah, that's not what I want out of that. That's exactly right. All right. Uh Chris, what do you got?
[01:02:16] I also had the Tom Petty one on my list as well. You got a backup?
[01:02:20] I didn't didn't have a That's fine.
[01:02:23] Okay, I'll give you back Well, I've talked about it on the show before, but we'll allow it.
[01:02:28] I'll give you a specific Dave Matthews memory. This would have been before you before you do that, let's let's one more thing on Tom Petty. Tom
[01:02:37] Petty loved that building and he loved this city and it was very well known and he talked about it a lot. Even on the last tour, last tour he did before he
[01:02:45] passed. Unfortunately, he only played two amphitheaters, Ruof and the Hollywood Bowl, the very last show he played.
[01:02:53] And he loved coming to this town even back to the days of Market Square Arena.
[01:02:57] Yeah, he put it in a song. Yeah, he did. That's exactly right. Um and you could always tell the band was always in a great mood. Um, Tom loved that crowd.
[01:03:07] He loved that building and I always felt like the energy showed a lot when he was on stage there.
[01:03:13] I want to say too, I may be misremembering this, but in Mike Campbell's book, he talks about uh
[01:03:22] I think it was a farmade that they played. And one of the other bands,
[01:03:28] um, he said or Tom suggested that they play, uh, Something in the Air.
[01:03:40] Um, great tune.
[01:03:41] And I don't know, they decided not to or whatever, but then Tom Betty, they ended up putting it on their greatest hits album and like Mike was like bragging
[01:03:50] and that happened at Indianapolis. like he was sitting in the uh Mike was sitting out in the whatever the lawn or whatever listening
[01:03:58] to this band try to kind of figure out that song or something like that. Something like that.
[01:04:01] I remember. Yeah, that was in his uh book. I I'm pretty sure that's right. Yeah.
[01:04:06] Yeah. So, he speaks kind of highly of Beer Creek, I think he calls it. Love that. Yeah. Really cool.
[01:04:12] Uh specific Dave Matthews concert I've talked about on the show was probably right around05 as well. So, I had a
[01:04:20] student that wanted to go see Dave Matthews. So, his parents, made me be the chaperone. Actually, gave
[01:04:27] me a free ticket. But we're sitting out in the lawn for the encore and they start doing all on the Watchtower. And
[01:04:34] they used to do all on the Watchtower with these hits at certain points. No reason to get excited. A big band hit.
[01:04:41] when the band hit on the downbeat, perfectly timed, thunder, lightning, yeah, storm opens up and everybody starts freaking out. It was really cool.
[01:04:50] So there there's a good there's a good one for you. Um all right, I'm going to go with uh this past summer uh Chris Tableton.
[01:04:59] Oh, fantastic.
[01:05:00] Just from first of all, it's Is that the only time I've ever been anywhere but the lawn? I think so.
[01:05:08] uh really good seeds and he just killed it. I mean so incredible position.
[01:05:14] Golly, incredible talent.
[01:05:16] Yeah. So I'm gonna put Chris Stapleton in there. Okay. It's a good pick.
[01:05:19] All right. So here's our uh one, two, three, four, five. Oh, the seven. Sure. We need an eighth. Give us an eighth. You've seen enough.
[01:05:26] Give us an eighth. Um I'll tell you what I got to tell you. I have a strong affinity for the evolution of an artist,
[01:05:33] right? love an artist that can find a way to grow and grow with their fan base. Right.
[01:05:42] The Millie Vanelli 91 show. Yeah. Right. Um Post Malone.
[01:05:48] Uh Post Malone. Listen, he was Post Malone, right? He was doing the rap thing. Mhm.
[01:05:52] And then he transitioned to do the country thing. And that the the way he was able to bring that crowd along
[01:06:00] into a completely new genre at the level and um the level of success that he did was really impressive to me. They
[01:06:08] rehearsed at the music center for that tour. And so they were out there. It was his first time with a full band. They were figuring out how to do it. and to
[01:06:17] be able to kind of just sit off on the sidelines and just see that evolution and how they were learning to do it and the level of
[01:06:26] professionalism and perfection that those guys were driving. I was like, man, this is this is going to be interesting to see how this goes. And
[01:06:34] the crowd fell in love with it. So, that's a tough bridge between those two parts of his career.
[01:06:41] I think we were all like, and listen, we don't get a vote in Post Malone's career, right? like we're here to support the guy and make sure we we're we're trying to sell tickets to his shows.
[01:06:49] Um but the way the crowd reacted I was like oh never mind this works works really well.
[01:06:56] So when you say he was rehearsing for that tour like he rented the place for a couple days or we partner with those guys. I mean we
[01:07:04] listen we want to be but he's there for a couple days. Yeah.
[01:07:07] Figuring out like staging and technical rehearsals. are working lighting cues and dialing in sound and monitors and they're running the show a
[01:07:16] couple times and yeah, it's cool. It's very cool. That's really cool.
[01:07:20] All right. Okay. Here's our eight. We've got Foo Fighters and Benfolds 5. We've got Dave Matthews. Pick one. Uh Mayday with STP Stone Temple Pilots.
[01:07:30] It does make me feel old enough to not like IPAs for sure.
[01:07:35] Uh Tom Petty05 when the electricity went out. Destiny's Child with uh some real
[01:07:44] shady salesmanship going on in the parking lot. Uh Tim McGra, what year was that? Do you remember?
[01:07:52] No. Uh probably early 2000s, mid 2000s.
[01:07:56] Early. We'll go early as uh Chris Stapleton last year. Post Malone. I remember that. That I was teaching at the time. So that would have been at least five years ago somewhere in there.
[01:08:06] Okay. Post Malone.
[01:08:09] All right. We got to come up with the top five.
[01:08:11] I I think the Black Crows Tom Petty has to be on there.
[01:08:14] No brainer. Yeah. I mean that's pretty special when it was equally as miserable as it was.
[01:08:21] When the electricity went out like I mean you had to freak out. I bet everybody just we were back like the crew.
[01:08:27] I was like I got hit by a car that night. Blew out my knee. Like it was hit by a car. Yeah, it was not a good night for any of us, man. It was not a good night. Walk right for like six months.
[01:08:37] Oh my word, Tom Eddie. Okay, Tom's got to stay.
[01:08:41] I really like that Dave Matthews lightning story. Yeah, that's a good one.
[01:08:46] I like when those like those kind of things happen. That's totally memorable.
[01:08:51] And I feel like he's such a mainstay of like he's almost the first person I think of when I think of Rudolph.
[01:08:58] Yeah. Yeah. listen probably one of two most performed artists at the music center.
[01:09:04] Yeah, I'm circling that one. Okay, I got Dave and Tom have to stay.
[01:09:09] Uh I like the Post Malone story. I think that's really cool.
[01:09:12] Yep. See, you guys you guys the fans, you got to pick. I'm gonna put Post Malone in there. All right. I like the backstory.
[01:09:19] Yeah, I do too. And I actually like him as a human being, too. I think he seems like a good dude. Here's a fun fact
[01:09:26] about Post Malone. So, uh, we are sitting in the Moonshot Games studio.
[01:09:31] That's moonshot games in beautiful downtown Noblesville, Indiana and online at moonshotgamestore.com.
[01:09:38] They've uh been nice enough to let us use the studio. So, if you need a new game, go check out moonshotgamestore.com, but they sell Magic cards, Magic the
[01:09:46] Gathering cards, which is like a trading card game. Well, Post Malone is a huge Magic the Tra Magic the Gathering player.
[01:09:54] Did not know that. And they last year, two years ago, I think it is now, they released a Lord of the Rings set of Magic the Gathering cards, and they put
[01:10:02] in there one card, one out of millions of cards, right? Uh, ring, like the ring
[01:10:11] from Lord of the Rings, right? Some guy up in Canada pulls it out of a pack. Um, like everybody's hunting for like this is one of the most popular sets because
[01:10:19] everybody wanted this one card because it's one of one, right? some guy up in Canada pulls it, Post Malone,
[01:10:27] pays for the guy to come to Canada or from Canada to his show, gives him the VIP treatment, and then gives him a million dollars for the card.
[01:10:35] Whoa. Wow.
[01:10:36] So, Post Malone has this one of one Lord of the Rings ring card for Magic the Gathering. Wow.
[01:10:42] And he's been on uh like there's YouTube shows where they play Magic the Gathering and he's been on that a couple times and Yeah.
[01:10:49] I thought you were going to say he bought it off Manship. Nope. Manship didn't get that one. All right.
[01:10:56] All right. Uh, so Post and uh, you have any insight over there, producer Chris? I do not.
[01:11:04] Perfect. I defer.
[01:11:07] Um, I can take Destiny's Child off there.
[01:11:10] That was just Destiny's Child. I think I like the hustle. I like that.
[01:11:14] That's the best part of that show really. I think for a lot of people, I remember reading the reviews and like a lot of people were like Beyonce was
[01:11:21] great, Destiny's Child pretty good, but the real magic was in the parking lot that time.
[01:11:26] Yeah, that was gold record. If not, it's a travesty, right?
[01:11:30] Kid with bleach blonde hair trying to sell his band CD in the parking lot. Did you have bleach blonde hair? For a while. Yeah. What was the name of your band?
[01:11:37] At that time, we were called Jane. Okay. I kind of like that. Yeah.
[01:11:42] Now, listen, you and I are both bald now. Do you think it has anything to do with the fact Whoa. Whoa. My kids say I have baby hairs.
[01:11:50] Yeah, my daughter loves pointing out my grays nowadays. That's some rock and roll fellas.
[01:11:55] Do you think our baldness has anything to do with the the fact that we both dyed our hair blonde? Uh, we'll blame it on that.
[01:12:01] Yeah, it started out with sun in on spring break and that turned it orange. It's a gateway drug.
[01:12:06] It turned it orange. We leveled it up to bleach and I had to do the thing where I mean this is when Eminem was at his height. So, I
[01:12:15] had the shaved head and we put it's called reactive or reactor or something on that that basically strips all the color out of your hair and then you put
[01:12:23] the blonde in. So, I did that. I think chemical experiment.
[01:12:28] There were some burning sensations going on with that. We'll blame it on that.
[01:12:32] And my dad didn't talk to me for two weeks after the first time I did it.
[01:12:36] Yeah. Okay. So, I think Chris Stapleton stays in.
[01:12:40] All right. Even though you big leagued us. We were at the rest of us were out in the lawn. Yeah, with the plebeians.
[01:12:47] I listen I love the lawn.
[01:12:49] I actually I had a great time in the lawn. Yeah, the lawn is great.
[01:12:53] Um, one more.
[01:12:54] Most of my shows have been in there. All right, so we got Dave Matthews, Tom Petty, Chris Stapleton, Post Malone.
[01:13:00] I if if we took this X103 Mayday festival and lumped like all the Xfests and all
[01:13:08] say we need like a festival representation and I I would say anything X103 did in the late 90s. All right, there it is. Was my time.
[01:13:15] There were some uh there were a lot of things that happened at those shows that no one can talk about. Well, let's get into that.
[01:13:22] I'll never I'll never speak of a word of it. Okay, so here's our top five shows
[01:13:29] out at RuofClipsVverizon Deer Creek. We've got coming in at number one, Sandy Patty. No, sorry.
[01:13:39] That's uh we've got Dave Matthews Band, Tom Petty and05, Chris Stapleton, Post Malone, and Mayday featuring Stone
[01:13:48] Temple Pilots representing the festival festivist for the rest of us, if you will. There's your top five. Ham go live.
[01:13:58] If that is not a list made by a bunch of middle-aged guys in a podcast, I don't know what it is.
[01:14:04] If that's not a list of our brand IPA drinkers, At least we're self-aware. That's right.
[01:14:11] Hit it, Chris.
[01:14:23] I want to point out we've had two Seinfeld references on this show earlier. He said Nexus of the Universe when Kramer was on the corner of First and First. I did not get it.
[01:14:32] And then you mentioned Festivus. So I call that Fall Creek and Fall Creek where those two intersect. That's all right. I'm glad you picked up on that. I appreciate that.
[01:14:40] A nice pull. What was the second? Uh Festivus. Festivus. Absolutely.
[01:14:45] All right. Uh we've got trivia and then I think we're done. Where's my phone?
[01:14:48] It's got my trivia question on it. Um, first of all, what do you got coming up? You got any shows coming up?
[01:14:54] Uh, do we have any shows coming up? That's till uh May 30th at uh Barellis.
[01:14:58] Barellis. Okay, that's us. Okay. What's uh what are you looking forward to the most this season?
[01:15:05] Um man, um listen, we put a huge investment into the music center this year. Uh the we jackhammered out the
[01:15:14] entire pavilion. We put in 6,000 brand new seats. All the dressing rooms have been completely renovated. New VIP box
[01:15:21] experiences. We got a ton of new food and beverage stuff we're experimenting with. We're excited about it. I mean, we, believe it or not, we do not sit up uh
[01:15:29] in the green room playing video games all winter. Um, we actually work pretty hard, harder, honestly, in the offseason than we do during the season. Um, once
[01:15:37] the season rolls around, if we've done our jobs well, we're just executing 10% 90% planning, 10% reaction. uh when it doesn't go the way we think it should.
[01:15:46] Um but we've been working hard. Uh that project's been about four years in the making and building in Indianapolis have
[01:15:54] been really really good to us for about 37 years and we're trying to set it up for the next 37. So listen, I'm I'm agnostic on shows. I just like doing shows. The buildings aren't busy.
[01:16:04] Communities aren't vibrant without shows. So like any show I I played music for a long time. Um, and I learned at a
[01:16:12] good time in my life that performing behind the stage was going to suit me much better than on it, right? Um, and
[01:16:20] so I really leaned into that. So I don't really care who you are or what you play or how you do it. Like I have tremendous respect for the people that figured out
[01:16:28] how to make a living playing music and I figured out how to make a living trying to help them do that. So um, listen, I want to see the place open up.
[01:16:36] up. I want to hear what the fans have to say about it. And um just at that point, we'll start thinking about the next thing, the next project. And so we
[01:16:44] listen, we just like doing shows, man. I like seeing the people um there's a lot of people out there that have been there for 20 plus years and come out that first night and it's
[01:16:51] like a big reunion. And everybody's pulling on the same rope, pointing in the same direction. And I don't want to I don't ever want to
[01:16:58] take away any magic from any show, but for me, like that's that's the kind of the drug that keeps me in the game. What I'm hearing is
[01:17:06] Kesha. I think Kesha is what he's Yeah. Right.
[01:17:10] What are the new food and beverage options? Jane Lang dumplings. Tacos del Centro. Okay.
[01:17:15] So, hopefully we do a lot of Tuesday shows. Taco Tuesday. Yeah.
[01:17:19] Taco Tuesday. Um Rebel Hen Chicken Tenders is back. We We did that last year. Ziggy's Pizza. Coco's Bavarian for
[01:17:27] those middle-aged guys on carbs. Get you a pretzel. Pretzel and cheese. Highly recommended. Done and done. Yeah. Right. all day long.
[01:17:35] The last The last show was the last show I went out there. I can't remember.
[01:17:41] I was so tired. There's like a coffee thing. Yeah. Jolene Coffee.
[01:17:45] Yeah, Jolene Coffee. I had I had to get an espresso. That was so Anthony That's Anthony Ketus' brand. Oh, is it really?
[01:17:51] Anthony Kitus from Red Hot Chili Peppers is involved on that product. So, it was almost nine o'clock and I was like, "Boy, this band's still going, huh? I better get some coffee." Do you have any new ant acid vendors?
[01:18:04] We have a local an asset.
[01:18:06] Got some wonderful reflux medicine we're going to highlight at the concession stands. It's fantastic.
[01:18:11] Now, listen, I know you can't um at least some shows you can't bring your chairs anymore.
[01:18:18] Um can I bring my CPAP? Is that okay? Is that still okay? Cap's permitted. Yes. Perfect.
[01:18:24] Uh Christopher, what do you got going on this weekend? You got a big show coming up on the 31st at the Hi-Fi for Front Porch Records.
[01:18:30] Correct. Um, people can find out more about that by going where?
[01:18:34] Uh, they can go to see Front Porch Records on Facebook or Instagram and you can get tickets at the hi-fi indie.com.
[01:18:43] Highfiindy.com. Check that out on 31st. Who's the band? Who's the band?
[01:18:47] Uh, there'll be two bands. There'll be Astro Tourrist and Fousey in the All-American Ghetto Band. Cool.
[01:18:53] We'll also have a an MC, Rusty Redbacher, will be MCing the event, performing a little bit in between those
[01:19:00] two acts. And then we have a uh spoken word poetry interlude as well.
[01:19:05] Nice with Dr. Dr. Adam Hensbow. Love it. Love it.
[01:19:09] is blowing up, man. He's doing great.
[01:19:11] He was just on Kelly Clarkson and Fox 59 yesterday. Yeah. I'm excited for that, dude. Awesome. Okay. Um let's get into the trivia.
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[01:20:03] Let me pull it up here. Oh, give me the trivia song.
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[01:20:23] All right, trivia question. I'm still trying to find it. There it is. Okay, our category, rock stars in movies.
[01:20:33] Okay, here's how this works. Andrew, you got 30 points.
[01:20:35] One through three. Just like Final Jeopardy, you can bet up to 30 points.
[01:20:40] Um, based on your knowledge about rock stars in movies, extra medium. Let's see how it goes.
[01:20:48] I'm gonna go I think I have 28 available. Can't say it out loud. I just did. Oh well. All right. Here's the question. Everybody
[01:20:56] got a value locked in. In 1975 cult classic film Rocky Horror Picture Show.
[01:21:04] Jeez.
[01:21:05] The character Eddie rebellious motorcycle rider was played by this real life rock opera star.
[01:21:14] I think I know this. I'm gonna say this again. In 1975 cult classic film Rocky Horror Picture Show. The character
[01:21:21] Eddie, a rebellious motorcycle rider, was played by this real life rock opera star.
[01:21:28] Rock opera star.
[01:21:32] I'm less confident now, but I'm going to go with this. I give myself a 4% shot at this. This is not going to go well.
[01:21:39] I've never seen Rocky Horror Picture Show. I don't I don't get it. Why that thing is so popular?
[01:21:45] They do those midnight showings and people like, okay, come out in costume. I lump Monty Monty Python in with that. I don't get it.
[01:21:52] Yeah. Too high brow for me.
[01:21:54] It feels like Chris would like something like Rocky. You like Rocky Horror Picture Show?
[01:21:58] I saw it. They used to play it at the uh theater at 86th in Ditch and I I think I made my parents take me to it in uh middle school.
[01:22:07] That's love. That's another one of those generational concerts that we're talking about. All right. Everybody got an answer locked in?
[01:22:13] Yes, I think so. All right. Yeah. Chris, we'll start with you. Freddy Mercury. Freddy Mercury 1975.
[01:22:23] I don't hate it. I mean, he's oporadic in his voice. That's why I chose him.
[01:22:27] Yeah, that kind of makes He did run across my mind, but I just felt like that was 1975 was peak queen, I feel like. So maybe I don't know. I don't know. What do you got?
[01:22:36] I had Freddy Mercury.
[01:22:37] You had Freddy Mercury, too. That's for Mercury. Great minds. Wow. Andrew, what do you got? Meatloaf.
[01:22:45] I went Meatloaf, too. Really? It's got to be Freddy or Meatloaf. Another one that crossed my mind was like, did was there a rock star that played
[01:22:54] uh Jesus and Jesus Christ Superstar? I know like Sebastian Bach played it at one point, but not in 1975.
[01:23:01] I didn't think was popular back in 75.
[01:23:05] Oh, I think it's it really became popular around World War II during the rations. People were trying to conserve as much beef, so they would add bread
[01:23:13] and crackers to it to extend go on. And then in I think it was 76
[01:23:19] the ketchup on top and you bake it came out like that was a revolution in the meatloaf industry and then it was a slight decline
[01:23:29] meatloaf. Every time I eat meatloaf I get diarrhea like a bat out of hell.
[01:23:34] I believe Bat Out of Hell came out in 1977.
[01:23:37] Oh well there you go. Oh I'm thinking of Bat Out of Hell part two.
[01:23:41] Yeah. Well listen I love Meatloaf and I would do anything. Oh man. Well, I won't do that. All right, here we go.
[01:23:48] Let's find out what the answer is. We've got two for Freddy Mercury, two for Meatloaf. Is anyone correct?
[01:23:55] Who Hot Patooti, Bless My Soul, was the song he performed in the film. That artist was in fact Meatloaf.
[01:24:02] Oh, whoa. 20 points, man. You bet 20. I bet 28. Okay. All right. I'm the winner. Cross off my 29.
[01:24:12] Milo had that weird resurgence in the 90s with Bat Out of Hell, too. Like, yeah, he did. He was in Fight Club.
[01:24:19] And he was in Fight Club. He played Bob in Fight Club.
[01:24:23] Loved it. All right. Well, there's your trivia. Hit me with the song.
[01:24:29] We're playing trivia. Trivia. Trivia. Trivia. We're playing trivia.
[01:24:38] Trivia.
[01:24:42] Hey, we're going to wrap things up the same way we always do. What are you listening to, Christopher? What are you listening to?
[01:24:48] Oh, man. I had a really exciting mail day the other last week. And you had a bunch of vinyl come in.
[01:24:55] Mhm. I got the Fabreze Brothers uh reissue and I got the the double vinyl obviously, but I also got the mini disc
[01:25:03] and the box set uh uh cassette thing that comes in this like uh kind of like jewelry box. Uh and on that same day, I
[01:25:12] got the new Isaiah Rashad album. It's been awful.
[01:25:15] So, I was really You haven't listened to it?
[01:25:17] I have listened to it and it's awful. No, no, it's great. It's fantastic. You just said it was awful. That's the name of the album. Oh, it's been awful.
[01:25:24] Who's on first?
[01:25:26] that Fbreze Brothers, the review I read on that says it doesn't stink. Not at all. It's quite fresh. Nice. Thank you.
[01:25:34] Thank you so much. Uh Tyler, what are you listening to?
[01:25:37] Um two things. Well, I'll just give you the one. Um Heromi, the pianist. Mhm.
[01:25:45] Japanese pianist lady. Yeah.
[01:25:47] Been listening to her uh Beethoven piano sonata number eight. Is this for real?
[01:25:54] That's a good one. for real. Okay. He's wearing off on me.
[01:25:59] You guys are getting into some weird experiential. I almost said Renaissance Orchestra. What is that? I don't even know what that is.
[01:26:07] It's like a hip-hop orchestra out of Atlanta.
[01:26:11] I'm going to I'm going to listen to that. I know you're going to love it.
[01:26:13] I've been dreading this podcast because I know my answers are going to sound like Chris and I know how we look at him when he says this weird stuff.
[01:26:21] All right. Renaissance hip hop. Are they big on the Renaissance fair?
[01:26:26] It's not that kind of thing. They're amazing.
[01:26:29] They played uh the Hawks halftime show recently. Atlanta Hawks. Yeah. They're from Atlanta.
[01:26:36] We talked about Tim McGraw earlier. His dad was who? And what team did he play for? Jack McGraw. No. Tug. Tug McGraw. Who played for?
[01:26:44] Cardinals. Houston Oilers. Philadelphia Phillies. Yeah. I would not have gotten that one.
[01:26:51] Yeah. Anyways, uh Andrew, what are you listening to?
[01:26:54] Oh, man. So, a couple things I do each week. I go through shows that I have coming up that I don't know the artists and I listen to them. Oh, that's good.
[01:27:02] Um try to make sure I understand what's coming and what the kids like and this that and the other. And some of it I love and some of it I love.
[01:27:08] Um uh gotos big long road trip. I mean, listen, it's hard to walk away from your roots, right? Um five all-time favorite
[01:27:18] records, right? Like you know, Abby Road. Mhm.
[01:27:21] Uh Tom Petty, Wild Flowers, Coldplay Parachutes. Um band called Boy and Bear. Yeah. Buoyant Bear.
[01:27:30] Uh Boy and Bear. They were still putting music out. Uh it's the Harley Quinn Dream record. One of my favorite records. 13 or 14 or something like that.
[01:27:38] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um you get a little bit obscure quick. Jimmy World did a record called Clarity.
[01:27:44] Uh late 90s, early 2000s that uh was really really good. So listen, Black Crows, uh Tom Petty, you can get into
[01:27:51] that stuff all day long. Some of the uh I think some of the Post Malone stuff is really, really interesting. Um listen,
[01:27:58] man, I uh anybody that gets excited and passionate about it, I'm all in. I listen to that all day. Yep. Love it. Um well, I've been doing an audio book
[01:28:06] again. This time it's fiction. Uh it's book called God of the Woods. I think it's called God of the Woods. Uh, it's
[01:28:14] like a summer camp and a kid goes missing and that's about all I know so far. So, start listening. I hope he's all right.
[01:28:22] I don't think it's gonna end well.
[01:28:24] His name is Bear. Oh, no. A girl disappeared. Her brother also disappeared and his name was Bear. Sounds.
[01:28:30] So, maybe it has something to do with this boy and a bear. Sketchy place.
[01:28:32] Boy and a bear. Anyways, Andrew, thank you so much for coming by. If uh people want to check out the lineup for the area.
[01:28:41] Yeah.
[01:28:41] Go where' we go? Live.com. Search for Rough Music Center. It's all right there.
[01:28:45] Okay. Or you can go to hamcolive.com and check out all the live music. We're going to include, of course, everything that's happening at Live Nation, uh, any
[01:28:54] of the bigger venues, uh, Fischers Event Center, the Arena here in Noblesville, and of course all your local dives are
[01:29:03] on there as well. And all the park concerts. Really, if you're like, man, I've got a free night. I should go see some live music. Go check out hamco.com.
[01:29:11] And uh stay tuned for maybe some potential ticket giveaways. All right. Interesting.
[01:29:18] We've been we've been known we've been known to give away some tickets. Uh thanks for tuning in. Go sign up for the newsletter. Subscribe if you haven't
[01:29:26] subscribed and drop your favorite uh concert memory at ruer in the comments. I want to see what you guys love out there.
[01:29:36] I want to see who sold the most CDs in the parking lot. Yeah.
[01:29:40] Hey, thanks for coming. Uh, we'll see you at the next show. See you from
[01:29:54] sticky floors, buzzing ears, sand I've seen for years. Tiny stage, big time sound.
[01:30:04] Every lost kid. Oh ground. Turn it up in the light bar.
[01:30:11] Light bar. Scream along like we're going to be star. Everyone, every shout, every star. This is our night. Our lake bar.
