Like what? What were you like as a kid? Because I wanna know what kind of habits they already have instilled from their childhood. You subconsciously just build, whether you wanna be an entrepreneur, you wanna work for someone, whatever you wanna do. If you can sell well, you're gonna go for things that you're passionate about and you use and you're constantly like reading about.
Yeah. Take a flyer on it. Do you think that entrepreneurship is something that you're born with or is it something that's learned.
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My Guest today is Mitchell Thiem. He is the founder and CEO of Minor Chores an all-in-one business software that helps kids launch and run neighborhood and micro businesses while keeping 100% of their earnings. It also gives parents oversight in a new way to raise independent kids while tapping into potential tax benefits and long-term wealth building.
He's originally from Carmel, Indiana and is a 2012 graduate of Guerin Catholic High School. He later earned a bachelor's degree in entrepreneurial management with a focus in energy management and technology from Texas Christian University. The Horned Frogs baby? Yep. Let's go before Minor Chores. He worked in the renewable energy sector, but his first childhood business, Poop Patrol at age 10 is the genesis of Minor Chores and what you're doing today.
Mitch, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me, man. This story starts with an entrepreneurial 10-year-old that would go around his neighborhood up in Carmel, Indiana and pick up dog droppings. That's 100% correct. Where the heck did that idea come from? It came from me and my brother sitting on the couch, uh, asking my dad for money, and he was like, Hey, get off your guys' bums.
Yeah. And you can make your own money. You're 10 and 11 years old. And I'm like, I can't go work. I'm not 14. I gotta be 14 to work. He's like, well, you can start a business. You're old enough to go knock on doors, make a marketing flyer, come up with a little business plan and get some customers and pick up some dog poop.
What, who had the idea for the dog poop? Uh, I think it was my brother or my cousin Dan. Okay. They said, yeah, you know, this is a problem that people have and no one wants to do it, and you guys could just go do, were you like begrudgingly or was this like, you know what, let's go try this thing. It was kind of like, from what I remember, it was, Hey, we identified that we had a lot of neighbors that had dogs.
And it was something that we could do without any upfront cost. Really? Yeah. All we had, we already had dogs ourselves, and we'd done it in our own backyard. Yeah. And we realized, hey, we could charge. We estimated five to $8. I still have the marketing flyer to this day. Yes. Depending on, depending on how, how big the dog was or how many they had, yeah, we would negotiate.
But uh, yeah, you can get poop scoop done in five to 15 minutes and make five to 10 bucks. And who, who was the first customer outside of your family? Oh, it was probably. Off top. Mc tis Possibly. Okay. Like a neighbor down the street? Well, they actually, yeah, they're right down the street. We had like five different neighbors.
Um. That signed up, basically called our parents after we dropped off marketing flyer. Oh, so you dropped, you didn't, you didn't knock the We did do some door knocking. You did. You did. But the starter was you, you dropped off a flyer. Yeah. And then we'd follow up. Uh oh. Yeah. You gotta, you know, you gotta burn some phones, the doors.
Uh, but yeah, we'd drop off flyers if they didn't answer. If we knocked on the doors. You know, the first couple times you're scared. Oh, you think that you think people are gonna like it's a 10-year-old Yeah. They're gonna yell at you or whatever. Yeah. Nowadays, not as many people open, answer the doors, which we'll get into, but, um, well, how many, how many customers did you build up to?
Uh, we had at our prime, especially with the landscaping business, we had roughly. 12 to 15. Okay. Wait, so So the initial business was Poop Patrol. Yeah, Poop Patrol. Make every step a good one. There we go. All right. Always had a marketing brain. Yeah, I love that. So you go from picking up dog poop and then how did it get into landscaping?
So picking up dog poop, we were like, Hey, our customers, they might need their dogs walk. So occasionally we would offer dog walking. Um, then we went into washing trash cans 'cause we knew they had stinky trash cans. You just kind of identify things as you get to know your customer Yeah, and what they need help with.
Over what was this like one summer or like how long was this going on for? We did it literally from age 10 every spring, summer and fall. Even in the winters, we would snow shovel as we became teenagers, but from age 10 to 18, really even into college, when I came back, I would go back to my typical customers and they'd hire me back 'cause I did a good job.
So I, I basically had a side hustle, which I still have multiple side hustles to this day. Yeah. That are kind of just instilled in habit. 'cause I started early. Did did you have, uh, normal jobs like high schoolers had? Not necessarily. I had played a lot of sports. Yeah. Occasionally I would help out. My mom helped a, uh, moving company for the elderly.
Yeah. That she would, uh, we would occasionally chip in with. Yeah. But, but like, so you were making all of your like what? Your student money while you were like doing these side hustles. Yeah. So take me through your 10 years old. How much money did you make when you were a 10-year-old? 10-year-old, we were making a couple hundred bucks a month.
Um, I mean, a couple hundred bucks to a 10-year-old is Yeah. Picking up poop. Yeah. And it's like a couple hundred bucks. You're, you're buying like Skittles and Powerade, you know, like Yeah. You, you had good money. Yeah. And then on top of that, I think it was around age 13, my dad was like, Hey, we need to open up these kids, like savings accounts, not just a bank account where they put money and it grows at tenths of a percentage.
Yeah. Uh, he was like. Let's open up a Charles Schwab account. We opened up custodial brokerage accounts. Back then, Roth IRAs weren't a big thing, but, um, yeah, we started investing early. So your dad, was your dad in finance? No. Worked at Eli Lilly. Uh, so like, you know, I mean, yeah. You know, so he Yeah. Smart investor.
Yeah, exactly. You know, and he's like, yeah, we're gonna get you into Lilly stock when you're 14. You'd be retired by now. That's why he's retired. Yeah, right. Come on. Okay. So your dad says, you know, you guys should start. Getting this invested. Mm-hmm. Which is like one, a crazy concept for a kid. I think that's really cool.
Right. Um, and it's a hard lesson, but an important lesson to teach your kids. Like I feel like the average kid is like, I mean, I remember it and I got my first like job and started making money. Oh, dude, I wanted a paintball gun. I used the paintball gun maybe a total of five times ever, because it's like, you can't just shoot a paintball gun every weekend.
But I saved up and I bought like a $300 paintball gun, and it was the coolest thing ever. Um, but if I, if I would've been thinking about it, that would be like $50,000 today, you know? Yeah. Um, so you guys started, uh, putting money away to invest? To invest? Yeah. Take me into the, I had a lot of passions early on.
My grandfather was in energy, obviously. I went to school for. Entrepreneurship and an energy miner. So I was really passionate about renewables. Um, bought a little bit of Tesla when I was a young kid, like 300 bucks worth. Mm-hmm. I sold it to buy my house, which was a good investment, but I wish I would've held onto Tesla.
When did you, when did you sell it? That was, uh, that was 2020 when I bought my house. And when did you bought it when you were a kid? Yeah, I think it was right around 2010 or 2011. Before I graduated 2010. 2011. You held it for, it was like, it went for, I think I had 300 bucks. I made like. I think it was three or three to five grand.
I forget exactly. So like yeah, you like ten three extra money there bucks. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty sick. Yeah, it was pretty sick. Yeah. I mean as a, that's a great ver It's not always like that. No it's not. Yeah. Right. But you're in the market early on 'cause your dad just like had this, you know, idea and got you guys set up there.
Yep. Okay. So were you like, did you know anything about the stock market or how were you learning about it? Kids, especially like you look at like. The FinTech companies today, they should follow their passions. I mean, do your smart investments, but take a couple flyers. Uh, I was passionate about Tesla. I read up and I'm not a big reader.
Uh, but things that you're passionate about and you use and you're constantly like reading about Yeah. Take a flyer on it. So that's kind of how I, yeah. And it's like for a kid it's a hundred bucks. Yeah. Which is a lot for a kid. Right. But it's not like make, but it could, it can change the trajectory of their interest in the market.
Right. Yeah. Okay. And that's just all it takes is getting started and letting it sit and grow. Yeah. Don't even overthink it. I bought some Bitcoin and I sold it the next day. I bought like a thousand or 1200 bucks of Bitcoin in 20, a long time ago, and I'm kicking myself today. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I sold it the next day.
You would de, you would definitely be retired. Yeah. You probably sold it for like a $7. Like a $7 gain. Yeah. It was silly. I mean, you, you're not gonna be retired, but you make a lot of money. Right. Okay. So you're doing these side business, but, and it didn't matter, like it started as Poop Patrol. Mm-hmm. But it, like you would do anything, it became theme landscaping.
We bought a commercial lawnmower cutting lawns, 30 mile, 30 minutes. 30, 40 bucks and you're just trading your time for money at this point. Right. But you're, you have the variable aspect. 'cause a lot of people, a lot of high schoolers, you know, trade their time for money to work at the local pizza joint and mm-hmm.
They're gonna make $9 an hour or whatever and like, cool. I work eight hours times 9 72 bucks. That's my milkshake money, you know? Right. Um, but you learned the idea of variability, you know, where you can work harder and earn more. Mm-hmm. And where did you really latch onto this idea of entrepreneurship from P Patrol?
Like once I got that hook, that idea of, oh my gosh, I can make a dollar a minute doing these neighborhood side hustles, if not more. It clicked in my brain. That time is money. And yeah, I was playing golf. Basketball basically year round and I just didn't have time to go work somewhere else and nor did I think that I wanted to, 'cause I was learning so much.
Just from really passively like customer interactions, being responsible, things that you don't necessarily learn on an everyday flipping a burger or delivering food or whatever it may be. You learn so much more kind of nonchalantly. Yeah, I think that it's interesting. Did you think of it as being an entrepreneur when you were in high school?
I'd say yeah, a little bit, yeah. Really? Okay. I mean, so I like did a bunch of stuff. Like I had lawnmower, like we did, I had side lawns, side hustles, like side hustles, and I just thought of it like it was just making money. Yeah. Like I didn't think, like, I think today a lot of people like. Yeah, respectfully, like get their degree in entrepreneurship or like, a lot of people just like study entrepreneurship and then try to like teach people entrepreneurship, but I've never just gone out and like asked someone for a dollar to do a thing.
Right. You know, like, I think that's the, like I, I called it. I don't know, like whether it was small business or just side hustles or just making money. Like those were the thing. It wasn't like, oh yeah, I'm an entrepreneur. And it wasn't ever that thought out or planned. It was like, oh, thought of an idea yesterday.
Let's like bring it to life today. And yeah, we will make 2, 3, 500 bucks or whatever and see if we can keep rolling. Yeah. So you end up going down to TCU. Well, my whole family, brother, sister, uh, parents, grandparents, everyone went to DePauw and I randomly was playing golf against a guy that was from TCU.
He was gonna go play for the team. And I went and visited him, became friends with him. Uh, shout out Jake Gould. Um, yeah. But yeah, went and visited him, fell in love with the school, the chancellor, uh, Chancellor Boschini was actually the Dean of students at DePauw. We ran into him. He came up to me. My mom, he is like, oh, I used to live in Carmel.
Like I was the dean of students. And he was like, what's keeping you from coming to TCU? And I'm like, well, I got a scholarship to DePauw. He is like, oh, all right. And then he ended up. Dean Scholarship the next week. No way. That's kind of sick. That's a pretty cool connection. Yeah. And then I mean, hey dude, Hoosiers take care of their own.
Yeah, exactly. So you end up down there. Um, and was your goal always to get back into entrepreneurship? Like as you were going through college, did you think like, okay, I want to like start a business and do this thing? Or were you like, yeah, you know, I wanna, I wanna go work at Eli Lilly and be like my dad.
It was kind of a little bit of both. Go learn. One of my teachers in school started a bunch of businesses. He's like, one thing you wanna do outta school is go learn. Go go work for a family company. Go work for a startup. Go work for a big company. See how it all works. And don't just instantly, I mean, you can instantly start a business if you know what it is, but if you don't know what it is, go figure it out.
Yeah, go kind of. I do think that that learning. Process is good. I think everyone believes that. They're like, oh, I'm the next Mark Zuckerberg, or whatever, and blah, blah, and it's like. Man, he got to learn. He was early on in the learning process. Yeah. Like he was getting his reps in early on, building these things, doing all that jazz.
And like he was one where it was a business, but it wasn't really like he was just figuring it out on the go. Right. I think a lot of people, it's like, you know, spend 2, 3, 5 years learning and I think that, uh, when you're in college, five years seems like an eternity. And then it's like you get there on the other side of it and you're like, oh my gosh, that I like blinked and it was over.
Yeah. Uh, so, okay. The idea was to go get some experience, learn, experience, learn. Um, and then eventually when something comes up, I thought it was gonna be a renewable energy business, a solar installation company, maybe sales, but yeah, I just, so many times Poop Patrol would come up on my resume when I interviewed.
You kept it on your resume. Oh yeah. That's what, yeah. And even when I became a manager, the thing I would always ask people if they didn't have anything about their childhood, it's like, what? What were you like as a kid? Because I wanna know what kind of habits they already have instilled from their childhood, which you subconsciously just build.
Yeah. And that's what built me. That's why I've four high side hustles today. I still have a full-time job and I'm starting this business. Yeah. Uh, so I would always ask people like, what were they like as a kid? And yeah. When I, it just came up so often when I interviewed at different companies like Poop Patrol, what's this about?
Thiem Landscaping. What is this about? I was like, is my neighborhood. Businesses as a kid. And uh, it just kept running in the back of my head. And that's really what kind of inspired it 'cause people were so interested in it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So like where was the final conversation where you, where P Patrol comes up and you're like, I should do something with this.
The third or fourth time, the guy who interviewed me first, uh, a guy named Charlie at NextEra Energy, he had kids and he's like, Mitch, what was that company? He would text me. He is like, my kids are getting the age, like they keep asking for money. Like what was that company you had as a kid that was on your resume?
Poop Patrol, Incorporated. Incorporated. I love that was not actually incorporated. No, it was not. No, definitely not. But they were, we were making every step a good one. Hey, there you go. That's the most important part. Yeah. Um, so just kept coming up and then I called my dad. I was going to work for a new company and I was like.
I'm in a good financial position. I invested early. I have a house. I can rent out rooms, I can find side hustles, I can caddy part time. I've got enough saved up to get started, which, yes, I've had to raise money. It's not cheap. Building an app for kids, let alone just an app. But, um, spur of the moment really.
Do you just like, like you were like, Hey, let's do it like today, like you just called your dad and said, you know, I think I'm gonna do this. Yeah, they thought I was nuts and I was gonna stay on as a contractor for the solar company. I was working, and then they ended up finding someone and I was on my own.
And I was like, all right, let's figure this thing out. And so you're just like, like day one, you are now a tech founder Day two. Yeah. So I was figuring out what am I gonna do tomorrow? So it was a Saturday, I went and hosted a li a limit or a, uh, dog wash station at the beach in Jupiter, Florida where I live, and started getting people to take surveys about my idea.
Um, so you hosted a dog watching station. Yep. You're like, I'll wash your dog as Yeah. As an adult. I'll wash your dog for free. Take this survey. Uh, lemme know what your thoughts are, bro, on this idea that's compelling. You, you gotta go to strangers, you gotta get feedback. Yeah. And what was the feedback? It was amazing.
It was really good feedback. Well, in, in the beginning was it all about getting kids to just start a side hustle? Yeah. It was kind of launch a business. You'll have your own app. It was kind of. Like TaskRabbit for kids. Yeah. And that's kind of how it started as kind of a marketplace. Yeah. That was the original vision.
And then as I went and tested different versions of the app, it's kind of evolved into a. Entrepreneurship as a service platform is what I like to call it, entrepreneurship as a service platform. Okay, so explain to everyone listening, explain what Minor Chores is today. Today it is a basically an all-in-one business platform where you can sign your kid up.
The kid can also get started by sharing a link with you saying that they wanna start the business. Uh, so the parent signs up once the account's created for the kid. The kid gets an autogenerated website, QR codes with marketing flyers, autogenerated, they can list it. Anywhere from three to five different business services they wanna offer.
And really from there, they can start sharing their website link. And it's just like any website that you go to, they're gonna ask, Hey, what's your new like, sign up for our newsletter. They're gonna gather information. So when the kid or the parent share the kid's website, or they pass out the marking flyers with QR codes, customer's gonna click it.
They're gonna say, Hey, support this young entrepreneur. Sign up for their customer list. So it becomes a CRM or Yeah, yeah. CRM. Like a market? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like HubSpot or Salesforce, but dummied down for kids. Yeah. And then they can send invoices and the customer's just visiting their website, scanning a QR code.
Uh, kids can get business cards with QR codes. So from there it's easier for the customer 'cause they're just clicking on a link. And then when the cus they sign up for the kids' customer list, they can send broadcast text messages, kind of like broadcast emails, but. Once the kid's in there, they can be like,
all right, I got seven different customers
that I know would like snow shoveling this weekend.
Yeah. When the snow comes, snow comes in, you're like, Hey, who you just blast out all your customers. They shovel this weekend, can see all their customers. They can see what services the customers would outsource in the, in their profile and their customer lists, and then they can click, all right, Johnny, Debbie, Matt.
Seven different customers. All of them need dog walking services or snowplowing services. I'm gonna send one blast text and it can auto generate the text. You send a text, it comes from the minor choice phone number, so the kid's not sharing the phone number, especially for the younger kids. Yeah. Uh, keeping safety first and from there the customer just clicks on a text and books the kit.
So it's way simpler than having to call all your customers. You can just send one blast text. When you're off from work, do you think. That it shouldn't be easy to be an entrepreneur. More people need to get started early. Yeah. I think that, especially in the AI economy that we're getting into, um, it's not gonna be about all test scores.
When they're hiring people. They want problem solvers. They want critical thinkers. They want people that think outside the box, um, and can. Solve problems quickly. Like you, you don't necessarily need to be a coder anymore. You can just talk to ChatGPT, have it, create a script and put it into lovable and it'll create a web app.
Isn't that freaking crazy? Like, yeah. If I had this three years ago, I would've saved a lot of money developing the app. Yeah. Um, so it's, it's crazy to think about that from a standpoint of. It doesn't necessarily need to be hard. You just have to get going. Get started. Yeah. I think the issue is, I mean, not issue just like my, like rough one.
I love it. I think it's so cool and so smart. Yeah. And I think that it's awesome and kids need this, but also on the other side when it's easy, they don't necessarily tie as much value to it. So like, uh, there's like, I get, I'm on, um. Several kids list where it's just like an auto blasts, Hey, I am selling chocolates, trash bags, X, Y, Z thing, right?
Would you support me? And it's like I miss the days when you used to have to like walk up to someone and like, I'll buy from any kid. I'll buy anything from any kid if they pitch it to me. Right? Like, not mom, not dad. Like if I'll walk by. And the girl scouts, if they say, do you wanna buy cookies? Yes. Yes.
If mom says you wanna buy cookies. Sorry. That's why we have fun family challenges in the app too. Yeah. 'cause it's all about lo location based services. Yeah. So one of the challenges is host lemonade stand. So like I said about the dog wash stations. Once I did those successfully, when I got started before I developed the app, then I started going to my neighbors being like, Hey neighbor, I'll host a lemonade stand or a dog wash station with your kids.
I wanna teach 'em entrepreneurship. And now that we've developed the app, we've made it in that basic idea, has turned into a way for the kids to market their business in their neighborhood. So they host a lemonade stand. They're gonna pass out the marketing flyers with QR codes. They're gonna say, Hey, why don't you try this lemon challenge where you try to put the quarter on the lemon in the water?
And if you get it on, I'll give you a hundred bucks. It's almost Im, it's impossible, but if you don't get it on, you gotta sign up for my customer list and you gotta buy lemonade. Yeah. Or something like, there you go. So the kids are doing different things that until one kid gets like totally buys like a square lemon and just totally gets rocked.
Yeah. Yeah. But wow. Yeah. Those are the ideas like within the app where we still want to create that connection. Um. We also know that we've done case studies with my cousin's kids where they went and knocked on 40 doors in Dallas or in Texas. Knocked on 40 doors without using the minor chore app got zero customers felt like failures, and then a few months go by, I told 'em, Hey, here's the new release.
Like try it. Try sharing your kid's website link on Facebook. He got over a hundred clicks on his website link. And back then the website link kind of looked like spam. Like we didn't have the social image where it shows the kids like digital business card when they share it. Um, but anyways, got over a hundred clicks, six customer signups, and three jobs booking three job bookings within the first like 24, 48 hours instead of going and knocking on doors.
So the world's changing in a way that knocking on doors isn't necessarily the, definitely not the safest or Yeah, that's true. The way that people want to be. And like people don't want kids coming up to the door all the time knocking on doors. So if you do it in a more modern way, well, I'm like those people, you know, if you are angry about a kid knocking your door.
Yeah, that's true. Like, dude, I had kids knock on my door two summers ago to like mow grass or pick up sticks or something and like. I love it. I was like, I, I thought it was so cool. That's one thing I miss about Indiana is we don't have the, that type of drive or that type of, I don't know, family Midwestern feel down in Florida.
Well, yeah, and I think that it depends on your neighborhood probably too, where it's like, if you feel comfortable like letting your kids go, and I was like, oh yeah, I, it ended giving the kid they worked. I dunno, 17 minutes picking up all the sticks in the yard or whatever. And I, I was like, oh my gosh, I don't, I was like finding all, 'cause I don't have cash.
Yeah. So I was like looking through change or whatever and I ended up giving 'em like 22 bucks and quarters. There you go guys. And they like definitely spent that all on like Jolly Ranchers. Yeah. Heck yeah. Ice cream tolerant. Yeah. Oh, come on. Um, okay. Do you think that entrepreneurship is something that.
You're born with
or is it something that's learned?
100% say it's something that's learned.
Really?
Yeah. I, no one in my family, like my parents are not entrepreneurs. I think it's nurture. You don't have to be a, the future, if you know how, like, if the tradespeople in the future are gonna become millionaires, there's posts about it all the time.
If you learn how to become a Plumber, electrician, you have to learn to be, you start your own business from that. Yes. So you learn the trades early on. And you learn how businesses work and then you start your own business. Like you'll likely become a millionaire if you do a trade. Okay. But you and all of your siblings grew up relatively the same.
Your, your brother was the one that had the idea in the first place. Yep. Is he an entrepreneur? No. Financial advisor. So, so we work with him. Yeah. So, but like, you know what I'm saying, where you're like, you were nurtured all a similar direction,
but only one of you ended up as an entrepreneur.
So was it, are you born with it or was it learned like maybe you were just born into being the entrepreneur of the family?
Yeah. It's good debate. Yeah. I think that anyone can have. Well, entrepreneur and side hustles, everyone's kind of an entrepreneur if you think about it. Almost everyone, I think it's has the upwards of two two thirds of people have side hustles of some sort.
And it's growing.
Yeah, it's growing. Like first, like everybody has something on the side now.
Right. It's, which like 20 years ago, no one had anything on the side. It was like, oh, expensive to live. Yeah. I mean, it is expensive. Yeah. And like people more than ever want. Flexibility. That's why you see like the full-time Uber drivers or DoorDash or whatever it is,
which like those are entrepreneurial in their own right.
Have you ever seen like the DoorDash app? Mm-hmm. It is like the most game, like it makes like, I was like, oh my gosh, I want to do this. Even though it's like not the best use of my time. I'm like, but you get like. There is like bonuses and like at certain times and certain hours, it like gives you extra like mm-hmm.
You get 1.4% or whatever, like surge, like it's so cool. Yeah. And you can just like rack up. I've done Uber. Yeah. Over task grab. I've done all these apps to learn. Yeah. 'cause I mean, in a way we're doing something similar. Yeah. We're trying to create a marketplace but not capture both sides and not take one any of their earnings.
How many student or kid.
Side hustles businesses.
Have you guys helped create, currently there's around 20 that are typical like popular chores. Yeah. And then you'll have your occasional, um, like you have 20 different services within the, that our kids are actively doing. Yeah. Like what are, what's like the most common one?
Uh, most common's babysitting, lawn mowing. Um. Dog walking's huge. Especially the girls bracelets.
Kids can sell like little products. Um,
oh, so little marketplace. Little marketplace. Okay. Yeah. Um, but the most interesting one,
especially this time of the year,
is grill cleaning.
Um, I've just, this past week I had a kid come over.
Not only did I get my grill clean, but you just, especially if you go at the right time in the day, like if they all
in my alley, back alley, there's.
A
bunch of garages we're in like townhouses,
so you see one other person grilling.
You see a lot of people out in the backyard and the kid's just selling grill cleaning services, costs 20 bucks he's done in 15 minutes.
Like that's 80 bucks an hour. Vi,
easy
rips those, right? That's pretty good. So grill cleaning is one I wish I did as a kid. Yeah, that's a really smart one because that one's simple and easy to do. Yeah. And it doesn't take a, yeah, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to clean and grow. No, it doesn't. Yeah. And, and trash can, trash can cleaning.
Yes. And that's become like a, like, that's like a huge business. Not, not saying that grill cleaning's not a real business, but like, I don't know if anyone's making a million dollars this year, cleaning grills. There are people making millions of dollars. Uh, cleaning trash cans. Trash cans. For sure. They have those big trucks too that come in.
Yeah, they come in and Okay, you end up going in to build this, you have to end up raising money. Mm-hmm. Like where did you learn about this whole process of, you know, raising investment and building a a product? Really networking. One of my strengths is definitely connecting with people. Networking. Yeah.
Uh, school, I. Went to school for entrepreneurship. So learn a little bit, but you don't really learn until you take it to action in my eyes. Uh, and you go, go do it. So, I mean, I failed. I pitched a ton of VCs here in Indiana. Failed all of them. Uh, what was the feedback? Generally? Too small, too small of a market?
Um, too early. Uh, I mean, we didn't even have an app then. It was really an idea. Um, but I always said like, we're in a financially stable position, like we're not. Spending. I'm not paying myself. This thing's gonna be a my baby for a long time until I have kids. I wanna get it to the point where my kids are doing this.
Yeah. That would be the easiest way to get started, if I would've waited until I was actually having kids. And then you could have Yeah, build it for yourself and then Yeah. Build, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, oh yeah. Like they'll, it'll work for them. Like, here's my, now you have to, yeah. They gotta be that guy that's like out there.
Okay. Can I borrow your kids for a Saturday morning? Exactly. Like, yeah, I'm hosting a lemonade stick. I promise it's totally normal. Right? It's normal. Yeah. It wasn't. Normally, yeah, I've done that a handful of times. But it's, it's hard when they're not your kids and, yeah. Yeah, totally. Like I, uh, one of our first, the first entrepreneur or, uh, entrepreneurial idea that we really, I, uh, was bat hats with Matt Vis.
Yeah. If you know Matt. Yeah, I know Matt. Uh, Matt and I started an e-commerce company that really served. The youth baseball and softball market. Mm-hmm. So it was like stuffed animal bat covers, uh, like golf covers, but for baseball bats, softball bats. And we would always have to be like, Hey, we, you were doing a content shoot, like can we borrow your kid?
And we found, like, we ended up finding our buddy Bo. Who was like in high school at the time, but he looked like he was young and he was like a model for us. And people just kept saying like, this is a product for kids. Like why do you have a grownup on your marketing? And it's like, because I got tired of trying to like ask people to borrow their children.
Yeah. Like, so we had to go all UGC, which was, um, it was a fun, but it's like, yeah, I know what that feels like to be the, oh, so. How have things been going? They're going good. Yeah. We've pivoted, um, like I mentioned earlier, from a marketplace where a customer had to download the app to really the entrepreneur, a SaaS product.
Um, yeah. And we're starting to gain that early traction, finding product market fit, getting to the point where, all right, now we're realizing a lot of kids are, they wanna see analytics, they wanna see like, all right, how many customers are actually viewing my website? Um, so we gotta show 'em and gamify it like you were talking about earlier.
We gotta make some tweaks. Uh, now that we found like that it's working and the kids are sending broadcast text messages and they're getting customers signed up, we just gotta tweak a few things to make it more gamified, incentivizing the kids, Hey, really getting the partner with the bank where they can actually get incentivized.
Hey, once you have earned income, you can open up an account with. Let's say Charles Schwab. We've talked to Bank of America, we've talked to a bunch of different companies that are interested. We just need more traction. And once they do that, just like any investment, they're gonna match. Let's say you put in 500 bucks, the bank will put in another a hundred bucks and they'll match you or whatever it is.
Um, a lot of times when you open up an account, they'll match, oh, they're a promotional. Yeah. Yeah. They're promotional because they want the long term client. Yeah. If a kid opens up an account. Early on, they're likely gonna stay with that bank forever. I still have my first bank for personal, like I, it was, I got in with PNC bank when I was just a young, I don't know why we ended up with PNC, but Exactly.
I've been there ever since. So the lifetime value of a customer for the bank to get in early and teach families the value of long-term investing and growth, uh, especially in Roth IRAs when they have earned income, is ex exponential to them. So they're gonna. Hopefully get to the point where they're gonna help support and once the kid open up, opens up an account, they're gonna back 'em with some additional funding.
How do you get children interested in Minor Chores? So I do a lot of grassroots stuff. I go partner with Future Business Leaders of America, uh, down in South Florida. Junior Achievement. Done it here in, uh, Indianapolis. Um. We're partnering with Zigazoo, which is the largest social media app for kids. Kind of like TikTok, but safe Parent Monitored, so Zigazoo.
Yeah. There's I think 6 million kids on the Zigazoo, bro. Kids have social media under 13. Yeah, they have their, oh, kids under 13. What the bro, no way. So there's like a, like there's someone out there that's like the, I don't know, whoever, like the Alex Earl of Zig Zoo, right? Like, she's like, yeah. 12 years old and is like the most famous influencer on Zigazoo.
Yeah, bro. I mean, uh, Serena Williams. The Williams sisters are, there's a ton of big, uh, Jimmy Kimmel. He's a investor partner. What Zigazoo. They've got, yeah, the number one social app for kids, create videos, win prizes, and make friends fun and safety. A hundred percent moderated worry what the. Right. No way.
So those are like the partnerships that we're working on. We've run some ads, we've done some tests. Uh, that is crazy. It's all uplifting. Positive, bro. Imagine being like, like that's, I love it. I think it's cool. I think it could create better social media people in the future. Yeah. Because it's like, yeah, you, you're not getting the.
Weird stuff. Grossness that is social. Like the internet's just a mean place in general. Like people are just, especially when they don't have to like be put their face out there, they're just mean. So this is cool. Alright. Everyone's like hyping each other up. So that's how we, some of the ways we get the word out there, we'll be doing a partnership with them.
Probably comes spring, summer. Next year is when the timing will be best. Um, but yeah, there's a lot of different ways, uh, the way that we've designed the app, when a kid shares a link, it's kind of like how Instagram blew up. They were a photo filtering app when they shared a link from Instagram to Facebook, it showed Instagram at the bottom.
So when the kids start networking and sharing their links, we'll eventually have referrals and stuff like that tied in. Uh, but. What's the story of, uh, a kid who started a business with minor tour and like what they're doing now? Probably about five in Jupiter, but my cousin's probably one of the, one of the better stories Yeah.
Of the fail, the fewer failure, which they kind of failed. Yeah. With their knocking on doors, uh, going around trying to do a poop scooping business, offering one service and getting zero customers and then as they moved. A few months later I connected with the parents and all they did was share a link, like the parents helped them select the services that they wanted list on their business.
They spent 10, 15 minutes with the kid uploaded profile picture and shared it with a few neighbors and on Facebook. And from there, now they've had over three to four recurring job bookings every month making as a 10-year-old like I was. A couple hundred bucks a month, just doing that over and over again.
You're chilling and then you just get referrals from there and the kid's gonna build a little empire. Why do you think teaching entrepreneurship to children is so important? Creates really the traits and habits that they're gonna need in the future, um, especially in the AI economy, that it's, they're gonna grow up in, I think it's one of the most undervalued.
Uh, things that you can teach a kid when they're young, especially for me, I grew up dyslexic. Not the smartest kid in the school. Struggled for most of my, uh, elementary, junior high, high school. Um, and if I didn't grow up doing a side hustle, learning how to invest early, uh, having those passions for making money in a way, and investing it, and becoming smart and making money work for you, which is what my dad would still says to this day.
Uh, if I didn't do that, I don't think I would. My mom always says he's either gonna do really, really well or he is gonna end up in jail. No, not really, but that's right. Yeah. Uh, yeah. There's definitely, uh, that aspect, I think it's just undervalued in today's world and there's, there's a lot of nonprofits that promote it and do really good, but the key is getting 'em to start and, uh, starting investing early.
So I think the, the biggest thing is. Getting to step one. Getting to first base? Yeah. Like lowering the barrier to entry to entry. You know, like how many Deca kids like invested. I don't know. What do they give you? Like, like a 10,000 or a hundred thousand fake dollars to like do the investment challenge for a year or whatever.
Right. But don't invest their own a hundred dollars. Right. I think that, yeah, getting exposure into that early on is cool. I think that entrepreneurship, yeah, I've heard it before, called like the great equalizer, you know? Mm-hmm. Like you can be from any background and you can start like everyone lives adjacent to dogs and could go do make 20 bucks this weekend.
Picking up poop. Yep. Like 20 bucks is good money to a kid. 20 bucks is good money to anybody. Right. But I think that's really interesting and I'm excited to see how it continues to roll out. What, what can we expect? What are new releases? What are, what are things coming in 2026 for Minor Chores? So we had a big meeting with some people over the last week.
Oh. Um, there might be some changes. There might be some new names, there might be some rebranding. Uh, kids like to have their own. Customization to it. Yeah. We've learned with this new release that we had. So, um, really trying to continue to get their feedback, make it in a way that makes it simpler, uh, more intuitive, but also customize kids.
Yeah. Need that customization. They need that instant gratification of their own. Yeah. That is interesting. How do, how are you balancing the world of instant gratification with also, also like entrepreneurship is not a world of instant gratification. Yeah, the balance is get 'em in as quickly as possible.
Let them kind of, we've learned we need to let 'em customize it. Let 'em come up with their own business name. Um, select the different services, but really get 'em to the idea of you can free website, you can download the app for free. You start using it for free. You have your own website. All you gotta do is share the link.
You get your own marketing flyers, you host lemonade stand. You're gonna have a neighborhood repeat client. If not one, you're gonna have probably five to 10. Yeah. So that's the kind of the, it's not, it's delayed gratification, which is what long entrepreneurship and long-term investing is all about. Yeah.
But the instant gratification is you get your own website. Yeah. And it doesn't even take a coding. Like it's similar but in a different way to lovable, it's just dummied for kids. And then it's, it's all about, uh, TTM, time to money, right? If you can lower the barrier. If, if, in the best case scenario, it's like they do that in an hour and then an hour later they have their first customer, right?
If they share their website link with, it doesn't even take an hour. It takes 15 minutes. Like a parent, we've done a test where a parent shares a website link. They don't need to do anything else. Share their website link. Say that, Hey, Johnny started his own little neighborhood business. Check out his website below.
They click on it, the kid's gonna get customer signups. And that's where you get the instant gratification. You start seeing the customers, the parents can approve 'em, make sure they know who they are, and the kid can send blast text messages and be like, Hey, I'm doing this this week. Hey, I have, you know what I would do.
And then it becomes repeat and they don't need to send them Brett. Well, and like in the early on, it's like, Hey, I have. You know, you can start to build scarcity. I have two hours this weekend to mow two lawns, like first two people. Right. Like they get priority. Yeah. And then someone's like, oh, I want, Jimmy does a really good job mowing our lawn.
Like make sure we get back. It's like little do they know he had eight hours and 10 people texted him and he booked them all. Yeah, exactly. Come on. Marketing tactics. Exactly. I love it. What's been the biggest lesson that you've learned? From children, entrepreneurs, always harder than you think it is. Yeah.
Especially in the tech world. Going kind of direct to cons, consumers, it takes more time, uh, than you think. It think it will, like this seems like everyone's like, oh, this thing's gonna blow up. Everyone talks about it just blowing up, but it's so hard to build something perfect for kids in the way that they all see things differently.
Mm-hmm. So. Um, they've taught me that, hey, patience, it's a virtue. I've always been kind of a late bloomer. Um, so they've taught me that, hey, take their feedback. I take their feedback as much as possible. I have a survey within the app where they give me, they can get paid five bucks just so I can get their feedback, uh, directly from, from me.
They can book a meeting there. There's time and money. There you go. There's time and money. Yeah. She, if you're a kid out there, you wanna make five bucks just down with this app and take a survey. There you go. Yeah, it's free. Yeah. So, yeah, that. That's definitely probably the biggest thing I've learned is it's never perfect.
Yeah. But you gotta launch. That's the biggest thing. Like I, if you don't launch, you get feedback. So many, yes. Like, so many people are just scared to start 'cause it's not perfect. Right. And that was my biggest fear with the first app developer. I was like, I don't think it's right yet. But every, all the mentors and advisors that I talk and meet through LinkedIn and this and that, and they'd be like.
The big entrepreneurs that have done a bunch of bunch of businesses, they're like, you gotta launch it. Just get feedback. Yeah. Even though they might churn and not be a paid customer, you gotta get their feedback. And that's what we did and that's how we've evolved into what I think is now we found product market fit.
Yeah. How can members of the community support you and what you guys are doing? Sign their kids up. Um, if you don't have kids, share it with some family members. Uh, it's a free app. We've made it freemium. So you're, you're basically making money from for free, just sharing a website link. Yeah. So they, what's the business model like?
How does that work? Um, it's subscription. Once they hit their fourth customer sign up, it's kind of like, I. I'm not a dating app guy. I have a girlfriend, but it's kinda like a dating app. They get blurred out. The parent can approve the customer, but once they get their fourth customer sign up, I, I love that you respectfully said, Hey, I have a girlfriend.
Like, cut. You don't wanna make that mistake. Okay. So it gets blurred out and saying, Hey, we helped you make your first 20, 50 bucks, whatever. It was. Like, what's the monthly five bucks for kids under 13, 10 bucks for kids? 13 to 17 Easy money. That's just cost of doing business. Yeah, but, or you can just sign up for the annual, get 50.
It's 50 bucks or a hundred bucks for the teenagers and you get 50 free business cards. Actually, I just ordered some for some kids that signed up. I just ordered a hundred for 'em. 'cause I was like, eh, because you're just a good guy. It's an extra $3. Yeah. On my part. But yeah. And I wanna get these kids up and running.
The business cards, the parents, their neighbors will put it up on the fridge, scan it whenever they're, yeah. Come on. They're looking for a young handyman, young bro. If they, that is a, a skill. If you can do any sort of handy work stuff, get into the trades and then build your business there, you're gonna be a multimillionaire.
You get kids to learn how to do the garage door openers. Ugh, you can do all this. I fixed my, uh, dryer a few months back by just taking pictures and sending it to chat. GBT. Dude, my kid, when he gets raised, when I have a kid, I don't have a kid, like I said, but. He's gonna learn all these little handyman skills.
I can go like, dude, the ai, the AI handyman is crazy. 'cause it like says, I think it's this blah, blah, you need to do this, do that. The other like, yeah, it's wild. I love it man. I think, I think it's so cool. So people can sign their, their kids up or organizations, you know, you talk about like FBLA and all those other different Boys & Girls Club.
Yeah, we're doing a big pilot with 13, 15 different Boys & Girls Clubs in South Florida. So if the Boys & Girls Club here is listening, yeah. Give us a ring. Uh. Uh, email me at info@MinorChores.com. Yeah, just go to the website. What's been the biggest piece of feedback that you've gotten and taken to heart?
I wouldn't say it's feedback, it's just belief like. People seeing what I'm doing back to my parents, instilling it in me from a young age. But the feedback is like, I'll tell people, Hey, it's, it's hard. It's, we're struggling. Like we've gone, it's a rollercoaster. Like you've, I've seen posts from you on LinkedIn.
It's entrepreneurship's a fricking rollercoaster dude. It's awesome. Of highs and lows and then sometimes it just kicks you in the teeth. Yeah. So, and you're like, bro, the best feedback is just hearing. The feedback when people get it and they see the full family effect that it can have on kids and raising young go-getters in a way, uh, that's the coolest thing I'd say.
And just the belief in, Hey, you're doing it right. You're, you're solving problems like you'll get there. Yeah. Here's the other piece too. Even if you are not. Like someone in your neighborhood doesn't have minor choice, but a kid shows up to knock on answer the door. Yeah. Like give them a $10 job. It's not, it's gonna cost you 10 bucks, but like those reps for them can get them more comfortable, you know, making bigger dollar amounts and building their business.
Like again, I have the internal rule. If a child. Comes up and asks me to buy from their fundraiser or support their business or do whatever there, I will always buy something if they do it in person. Right. And they come up and like, and I make them go through, they hate it sometimes, but it's like, oh, tell me about what's your recommendation for cookies?
Like, what do you like to get? Like, and I ask like a thousand questions or whatever. And they're like, what? And like there are some that get really good reps and they're kind of looking at their parents and they're like. And they're just getting the experience of selling something, right? Because like being good at sales is a cheat code in whatever you wanna do, 1000%.
Whether you wanna be an entrepreneur or you wanna work for someone, whatever you wanna do. If you can sell well, you're gonna go far. Go far, yeah. Get 'em out of their comfort zone. Yeah, absolutely. Even the parents, like your kids playing video games, like get 'em outta their comfort zone. Let 'em, let 'em go.
Explore. Let 'em get uncomfortable. Yeah. Learn how to feel. Uh. Fail in order to find success. I love it, man. Well, we've come to the final part of the show where we took all things Indiana. So you are a South Florida resident now, but grew up in the booming metropolis of Carmel. Talk me through what was it like to be a kid growing up in Carmel?
Um, I feel like gritty entrepreneur doesn't really fit, you know, jive the car vibe. Yeah. I was kind of, uh, a little. Felt almost, we were right on the border of Noblesville and Carmel. Oh. And uh, yeah, I was just kind of different. I'd say just with the side hustles. Uh, one of the stories, I won't name my neighbor's names, but a kid my age, they would sit upstairs and play video games and then as friends, it was a joke.
But they would shoot me with their Airsoft guns. Well, you were out there as I'm mowing the lawn and then collecting money from their dad. But, sorry, off topic. But, uh, no, that's funny though, like, yeah, and I mean, growing up is normal. That's like being a kid too. You're just like the classic like was, how did you get comfortable being different?
I mean, I was in a basic skills class. I'd get made fun of. I just didn't really care. Uh, I played sports. I was competitive. I just try to beat people at whatever I was doing. Yeah. So I think that's something that, um, I hear a lot of people talk about specifically coming from like the north side of Indianapolis.
It's like, well, like, you know, I may maybe they grew up in not, they didn't grow up in Carmel, like, you know, whoever it is, but now they've done well in their career or whatever. They moved to the suburbs and they're like, well, I don't want to raise my kid to be soft. Right. That's hard. Right. It's hard to do that when we, A lot of people on the north side have a lot of privilege.
Right. You know, have like, have done well, you know, and so building something like this or sports or whatever it might be, building that gritty, I don't know, bone streak inside a kid is important. Right. But I think it's hard. Yeah. Very hard. So, so this is Minor Chores. Yeah. Could be helping instill some grit in the north side of Indianapolis.
Seriously, come on. Anywhere. So whether it's, it's within Minor Chores or just in general, what's the coolest kid run business you've ever heard of? I really like the curb painting. Kids can fly when it comes to time, value of money. Like that one just stuck in my head when I, when I see it, is they get their little plaque, they get their spray paint, they go to the curbs.
Sell the customer and spray it. They're done in 10 minutes, not even 10 minutes, five minutes. Um, that's one of the cool ones that I always love to see and the traditional ones. Uh, a story of my neighbor, 7-year-old little kid named Lars. He sees me out in the dog out with my dog. I'm like, Hey, Lars, you wanna make some money?
Go pick up her dog poop. He's like, oh, I'd never pick up dog poop for money. I'm like, I used to do it. And the day later it goes by, I'm like, Lars. I got a dollar for you. Right? Here you go. Pick up that poop. I'll give it to you. He goes, really? I'm like, yeah, here's a bag. I'll show you how to do it. He does it, and then it clicks right after he is done.
He is like, I scratched my grandma's back for 30 minutes last night, made $1. He's, wait, what? And he's like, wait a second. I can do this. I make a dollar in seconds and he's like, oh gosh, I love this. Every single time now I'm out back. He's like, you gotta have just dollar bills online. Yeah, no. Well now he invoices me through the app and he's seven.
He invoices you through the app. Now I've got a month, a weekly arrangement. Oh, you gotta, yeah. You know? Yeah. I like that. I got him. Yeah, I'm getting him. Wow. And it clicked for him. Yeah. Clicked. That's that's awesome. So that's one of the best, one of the best stories. What's the biggest piece of advice you give to a parent out there that wants to encourage their kid to start a business?
Because sometimes the classic thing with the kid is you tell 'em to do something, they're gonna do the exact opposite. Yeah. Kind of finding a way around. Allowance. Say, Hey, let's make it into a game. Gamifying. You wanna be rich when you're older. Like we've got a little calculator here that shows long-term investments.
Um, so I saw a bunch of different Instagram parents that do this. So follow the parents that like teach their kids certain things about investments. And if you can gamify it in a way that hey, not only teaches them that, hey, you start investing early and often, you're gonna be a millionaire. How are you gonna do that?
So start asking 'em the questions, kind of the gamifying it, just not telling 'em what to do, but asking 'em questions in order to instill kind of the hard work. Yeah. In the entrepreneurial mindset in them. And I think that variable option is important. Right. I remember being. Oh man, I might've been 10 and there was like a certain amount of chores that I did.
Like there's a certain amount that I did and there's a certain amount that my mom did and there's a certain amount, like, you know, like dad would take out the trash and I would mow the lawn and mom would do the dishes or whatever. Mm-hmm. And I would get five bucks. Yeah. And I remember trying to say like, Hey.
What if I made 10 bucks and I did yours, and what if I made 15 bucks and I did yours? And eventually I like tried to stack up so many and they were like, Hey, we we're not, we're not gonna pay you $55 a week to do this thing, like blah, blah. But had that been an option, I would've done everything, right?
Like I would've done all the, because I was like, oh, if I do more work, I get more money. Like getting them in the mindset of that, where it's like, if I do more, I get more right? I can, I have this variable amount. I think that's pretty cool. And when they learn that, hey, you can make your money work for you.
Oh yeah. See this is the other piece that like, that's step two. The investment piece is like another level of it, right? Like I love the entrepreneurship side of like figuring out how to do it. Then when you get to, yeah, that's like level two is getting your money to work for you. Get your earned income first.
Yeah. And then from there we'll teach you how to make money work for you. I love it, man. We've come to the final three questions of the show. Now you live in South Florida, but I'm sure you talk about your. Indiana roots quite often. Oh yeah. What's something the world needs to know about Indiana? I think they all know it's a Hoosier state right now.
Um, but it's true, we're, it's full of amazing people. Midwest people are, in my opinion, some of the most loving, caring, uh, welcoming people in the world. That's probably first and foremost, which is well known, especially down in South Florida. Um, people love meeting people from the Midwest 'cause they're always so friendly.
But yeah, I think it's also goes the sports. Look at the sports teams and the golf. I'm a big golfer. The public golf here is better than any state, I believe, in the United States. Wow. I'm biased. What? Yeah, what's your, what's your public course? Where do you play? I love where do love to play? Love. I love purgatory.
I love Prairie View. I love Plum Creek. I love, um, The Fort. Yeah. I still haven't been down to French Lick, but. That's on the list. Did Pete Dye will change your life? Oh, I love Pete Dye. Met him at Crooked Stick when I was a kid. No way. Right before him and his dog. That's pretty sick. His dog pretty, yeah. He had a dog that he always walk around.
Crooked Stick. Did you ask if you could clean up the, the dog poop? The dog poop for some money. I was golfing. He didn't take a poop or else I would've to make sure. Right. I'll make that step a good one. Watch out. Come on, watch out. Okay. This is your chance to shed some light on part of Indiana that more people need to be talking about.
What is a hidden gem in Indiana? Skating rink in Carmel Arts & Design District? Oh, a little, yeah. Carmel Christkindlmarkt. Yeah. Right. Yeah. In the farmer's markets, just in general, like the. Whenever I come back and I visit, I'm always like, where's the, where's the closest farmer's market? I wanna go support these small businesses.
I mean, the Carmel Farmers Market is crazy. Yeah. We put an episode out with them, they're like, people drive two, three hours just to be a vendor there. Right? It's nuts. So finally, this is your chance to share the love. Um, someone with ties to Indiana who's a Hoosier, we need to keep on our radar. Someone who's doing big things.
I mean, Tyrese Haliburton. Yeah. He's gonna come back bigger and better next year. I saw him dunk the other day. Yeah, that was fire. That's awesome. I was, like I said, I think he put it up on the gram. Yeah, he's, he's healing up Well, yeah. Um, I'd say you. Too kind to me, man. Yeah, we're, uh, I'd say you, it's 'cause we get great guests that come on and Yeah.
And share their passion and are doing inspiring things, man. Final question for you. Where can people find out more about you? Where can they learn about Minor Chores? Where can they get their students, their kids involved in entrepreneurship? Well, I guess you can actually like Google or ChatGPT my name, my cousin did it the other day and it, it spits it all out.
But, um, no way. Yeah. Um, but yeah, MinorChores.com. That's sick. Um, you can follow us on social media, Instagram, TikTok, uh, LinkedIn, uh, Minor Chores. Yeah. And, uh, my, okay. Download the app. Download the app and you can get a business started this weekend. Yeah, I'm like, I just bet. Yeah. Let's see what it says.
Entrepreneur, founder and CEO. Minor Chores. A startup app designed to let young entrepreneurs find small job opportunities like chores, babysitting neighborhood tasks posted by people needing help. Wow. They have Poop Patrol in ChatGPT. That's crazy. Alright, Mitch, it was a pleasure to hang out with you. Um, keep up the good work.
I think this is so important. You are teaching. Valuable skills, not just about entrepreneurship, growing a business, but also about money and investing in helping make future millionaires, right? Like that'll be crazy when we look 20 years from now at kids that, you know, got involved with this early on and ended up becoming millionaires because they started with scooping some poop.
So, love it, man. Keep up the good work and we'll talk soon. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. This show is made possible by our friends up at Sweetwater. Whether you're looking to start a podcast or take your content to the next level. Click the link in the description to see all my gear recommendations at Sweetwater.
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