from the crossroads of America in the hoer state of Indiana this is get in the podcast focused on unfolding stories and extraordinary Innovations happening right now in the Heartland I'm Matt hunkler CEO at powderkeg and I will be one of your hosts for today's conversation I'm joining in Studio by Coast Christopher to day let's roll today's going to be off the chain off the chain CEO Elevate Ventures to and Nate spangle head of community at Powder Keg yeah buddy and our guest today is Dr Toby Malik founding executive chairman of Malachi group worldwide and he is he is so decorated he has done so many
amazing things we were talking a little bit before we hit record here so I'm very excited about this conversation he's a global business Diplomat an impassioned entrepreneur he has been on the Forefront of international trade and business consult and has had a business consultancy for over four decades yes she called one of the local guys in in connorville Larry Alexander he said how you feeling she said oh I'm you're not doing too well do you have TV set can you get CNN so she called the nurse in nurse put on CNN and there was her oldest son the first born the chosen one not with
one but four presidents of the United States of America Dr Toby Malachi is an expert in all things global trade his story isn't just a journey of personal Triumph but a testament to perseverance strategic vision and the unyielding power of faith in today's show we are going to cover the inspiring moments that define Dr Malachi's Journey the adversities that tested his resolve and the principles that guide him in mentoring the next generation of leaders we'll also learn how Dr Malachi's early experiences shaped his Global Perspective what it means to overcome personal and professional challenges and how he stayed grounded through it all and of course
we'll hear firsthand about the lofty goal that propelled his life work his ambition to win the noble Laurette and why that matters not just to him but to the world Dr Malachi thank you for being here and welcome to get in oh Matt thank you very much I I didn't know who you were talking about there for a moment that guy's awesome well done it is such a pleasure to have you here and obviously there's so many things that you've accomplished in your career but I know the whole thing starts at age seven or eight that's right can you take us back to that moment
yeah thanks for asking that that's I never get asked that question so of the thousands of interviews around the world around the country first time someone's asked me that no kidding it's such a cool story I I would love to hear about it it's I'm origin from a small town called conille Indiana okay ghost Spartans ghost Spartans when Nate said I was like Yeah and I don't know we were poor but we didn't know we were poor uh never had a father in my household never saw him until a funeral then I graduate from high school going to play professional baseball and he shows up
my dad kind of stuff my mother and aunts took baseball bats to him true story ready back to Chicago you know my gosh but my great grandmother and my grandmother my great-grandmother was Irish uh dust German Cherokee and black then look like me so family reunions where did I come from interesting and yeah and until I got down to my mother and but I always for some reason had these lofty dreams I don't know I now know where they came from I didn't know where they came from and my mother used to say you're of all my boys there was three of us and two
girls God bless all the past but one uh sister um he said you're you're the chosen one my grandmother's and grandmother's black grandmother's back then probably still this day too but back then they just would take the first I was a first boy first grandchild and first dark skin person in my family so I was spoiled won a beauty I one the most prettiest baby contest in 1950 yeah we should have led with that oh well it it's it's funny cuz when I saw the picture of it in the news examiner I couldn't tell what it was and but for some reason I had just
a fascination with with Globes I'd see a globe or a world I I just just come we had encyclopedias they were used we go down the library and get them and look at them that was the internet entire internet was was encyclopedia you know what that's right that's right that's right Tom and so first and second grade went by and I just uh we had what do you want to be and you grow up and I just in the third grade I said I want to become a world leader wow and everyone I know it's God now but but back then I think this mean
just looking at the globe and seeing you know these pictures of globe and different people around the globe and I said I want to do that I want to meet these people I think it'd be fascinating to do that and it was a turbulent time you know back in the early 50s so yeah I believe in peace I believe in business for peace and so I said I would win the Nobel Peace Prize I want to do that eighth grade and it just stuck that the the goals I've set I want to win the Nobel Peace Prize and I'm going to win it I'm going
to earn it I went back from a 55th High School reunion the end of this past October wow and all my kids gra not my kids the classmates from kidney Garden second third grade the one thing they talked about they said Dr Toby go is to win the Nobel Peace and then they had they had an article where I'd said that wow third grade I think I know somebody wrote it up right but but that was just something I I believe in I've worked towards it it tea work for it do you think it's important to have a big lofty goal like that yeah yeah
I think my grandmother just call me Mastermind and I call her mom Francis jware she said from uh Pete City Georgia Atlanta she said maybe she had a fifth grade education maybe but the smartest most intuitive mother with person you ever you ever want to meet and Mama I call mom mama called me Mastermind she says man say you're always doing something your mind never stops it's always just going I'd have dreams I'm on my own private jet I don't think I even had Jets back there just and you have to understand it's a three bedroomroom home and we had an out house So eventually
that got plumed inside we had one FAL of cold water so we had to heat that on the C stove so it had to be God and platin in me cuz I wanted to get my mother out of the out of that area we didn't call them ghettos back there it was just where blacks were relegated to live MH I always just had goals and dreams and I I always remember getting in trouble in school come on Malachi could daydreaming and I could see these world leaders and so it just kep my I I love that daydreaming fantasy right visualizing we call visualization today the
um I'm curious what how you think about so you obviously heard you're the chosen one you heard these words before you probably knew how to speak exactly right and so what do you think that does for the subconscious right of children growing up being told you can do it you can be you want to be Etc building them up I want to share a quick story before you answer that question that you made me think of a moment ago I was at a retreat recently and and uh Gary bracket who used to play play for the Colts and he was on the championship team and
one of the folks at The Retreat or talking about life and kids and pursuit of your passions Etc and one of the parents said my my child my son is uh sophomore Jor and has these visions of being I can't remember if it was a baseball player football player or something and she's he's not going to achieve that like how do I how do I reset his expectations and Gary said you don't you let them go for it let them dream about it I like that because if you don't whatever that thing is that lofty goal yeah so even if that's the lofty goal and
and the child doesn't hit that and they hit here and if you're only listening I'm visualizing with my hands yes that's still awesome yes and so how do you think about that oh I I like that Mama back to Mom again and thank you Matt that's no one's ever asked me that question mom always said man you can be anything and everything and just think about what you want to be just dream about it have a vision permission the dream permission to dream oh I like that I did too and then telling kids she always encourage inspired us and your point was well taken and
Gary bracket is that let It Go Don't Kill the dream don't kill a kid's dream I didn't know any better I I just knew I wanted to have more than one pair of blue jeans you know a modest goal but a good goal on the way to Nobel War knowy and and it was just a natural gift I got along with all people and then I said times were tense back there like they are now but they're a little more tense this was the 50s sure and I go up to anybody and talk to anybody I didn't care they just didn't make me any difference
I go just talk to them they this kid must be crazy but he's a kid so you can't push him away but I just go and just talk to this day I do that where did you get your entrepreneurial spark ah great question great question two people three people maybe one was Mary Bell Perkins we had one business in the black neighborhood on the hill was a grocery store you remember what it was called I should have I don't but I should have that's all right we'll research it see get in the show notes yeah Mary Perkins and upon the hill and she walk in
there and back then uh you can buy a kni bot of pop for a nickel Coca-Cola for a nickel bubblegum 5 10 pieces for a nickel Coca-Cola 6 cents bread was like 11 cents or um a quart of milk 27 cents wow and see all these things products in the store and I was taught by my mother to so I was the oldest of of of five of three at that particular time that she said anything you need in life going have to work for it so she made a scrubber scrub the toilet clean the house dust all that things while other kids went out
to play we had to do those things she teach us discipline didn't know so I go to Barry Bell she said she said if you bring in pot bottles back then you got to deposit for bringing in the pot bottles that's right forgot about that and so I said and I'd go out and I'd get me a wooden case back then and I'd bring in po bottles two or three four cases of pop bottles and get money for the for the for the the deposits buy some candy I'd give my mother a few pennies and go towards groceries that's great and marwell said she said
you know what you're going to own a business one day she said you're very enterpr Ur rising and then my great grandmother Grandma great grandma Dillingham was Irish Cherokee and D German she used to call me get up I love that and because back we got get up on the get in podcast yeah really I love it back then since we were poor everybody had Co stoles back then oh yeah so I'd go down in their basements a little skinny kid and bring coal out from the basement up to the coast stes during the winter I would shovel snow in the winter I'd rake leaves
during the fall cut grass during the summer and so it was always like he's always Mastermind he's always doing something business always doing something business then Frankie Baker who cannot read or write but and when when he died end up having a lot of money he always bought a new oldmobile 88 every year drove nice clothes but he haul trash literally dirty stinky trash and he' take me with him I'd go over and lift these little barrels up cuz I wanted to be muscular Nate build up so I was box of Golden Gloves back had to build up and stuff and I thought on on
the truck I was trying to find ways to make money to help my mother and so he said you're going to have a business one day you got you're entrepreneur but that's not the word they use you're going to own a business and he taught me humility because uh he couldn't read a right and he didn't put the syllables together maybe right I anger me sometimes people laugh at him i' I'd take up for him but he was laughing all the bank and he literally signed his name with an ex Lally did w but he always had this new truck dump truck and then I
learned how to drive the dump truck those two primarily then my godfather was Perry Cox who worked in a factory but then came a barber the late Phil coock Mr Bas while was his father and he said he told me this he said Toby he said learn to use your mind instead of your hands that's powerful that powerful because back there everybody worked in the factory or that's about all we could do now that stuck with me the whole time so that's where it all came out of and just went from there you had some great early mentors yeah and didn't know it yeah it
was just like you just didn't know it can you just talk through being being a young kid hauling trash and coal and cutting Lawns and and all these all these opportunities yeah what advice would you have for any entrepreneur out there on spotting opportunity cuz I feel like everything you just said is is just a a master class on being able to identify opportunities and take action I'd love to hear your thoughts on that oh that's a very important question Nate and I hope I can give us some justice here I tell young kids what's happened is when I resigned from J Motors Corporation I
became a motivational speaker and trainer and I started doing training work exercises motivation exercises trying to build my business up up from there set goals have dreams get up nothing ever happens until you get up and I told the parents it was in the ' 80s I told the parents I said look I come from a broken home I come up we were poor know we were poor but we had everything we need to have it seems like back the Marine Corps would bring us Toys during the Christmas time or JC's would bring us food so we had things to to go we didn't have
the best of best so I'd always would work and then I got another part-time job at ser and robu and I was was able to my grandmother worked there as a stock boy I'm up in the laundry man and people laughed at me they used to laugh cuz they was like we don't do that and I told the parents yes I want my kids to have it better than me but I said don't forget to tell your kids how you got to where you are and Nate they dropped that lesson you're talking about they let go they dropped that lesson no I'm going to give
them anything they want they dropped the lesson now today it's even worse I I said because now it's just like I want this I'm going to get this in kind of way okay I'll give it to you I write a check but you lost that discipline you lost you lost a big part of you that will help you not in your teens in your 20s 30 40 50 60 70s and up because there comes time there will come times I'm a testimony of this you have to draw back on those experiences and I said I grew up poor without if something happens in America and
we get cut off from food electricity water I know how to survive no could goes back to that that training I had growing up and we've gotten away from that how do you think people could can cultivate that skill of spotting opportunity because it sounds like for you it really came from a place of necessity I if I don't spot the opportunity I'm going to be working at Ser robu the rest of my life which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I lost your goals yeah that's great now I all of my kids I I taught the way I was taught and raised up and
they're all enterprising they're all you know work my daughter oldest daughter she's International model actress works with um challenge girls but she'll still work two or three jobs you know my my son spent time the Air Force all all my kids Kobe all my kids Got U degrees that's my high five that's my greatest accomplishment right there congratulations but I Tau them all that to work and and I I used to give a motivational talk was the great Zig Ziggler oh yeah I used to listen to Zig Zig tapes all the time Zig would take me around and speaking and uh Zig Zig said something
that stuck with me and I I'll share this with you he said the only place that you'll see success come before work is in the dictionary yes that's awesome there's a title that's great yeah that's great a't that awesome yeah M drop so I I think that's a powerful lesson if you want opportunity just start working just start doing things because you're not going to find opportunity sitting on your couch or messing around not doing anything sit on your hands so how so how did you start to transition then so you just the wealth of of knowledge that you were able to gain growing up
right and and the the like positive reinforcement so now you're in high school you're playing some sports you're starting to think about college you're starting to think about what am I going to do give us those stepping stones from kind of 16 17 18 years old kind of stepping stones into your mid 20s as we approach your when did you start your business today January 1 1982 in 82 MH and so you were uh 30ish I was 31 31 yeah maybe walk two it's already set in so what were those connection points relationships or connection points that got you from high school you played Sports
in high school right it sounds like you were a rock star no but like close that Gap for us that decade as we approach the things you've been working on last four decades very excellent question and then I'll reflect back anything I wanted I had to work for anything we just didn't have it we just didn't have it the negative never had the negative reinforcement they didn't allow it grades in school no excuse just see you're not average you can do better and just on but now you're going to high school you start thinking about college of course I'm first generation went to college and
I thought like most black kids do time going to play professional sports baseball was my probably the best sport I I boxed the gloves so I thought Muhammad Ali was my hero so I was going to box a professional boxer thought that was going to be a way to go and then basketball I wasn't I later picked up basketball in college became a Hall of Famer and iy was now going to be Indiana University casual just casual just picked it up came like Michael Jordan but and I bailed hay like I was telling Toof grew up Belling hey yeah to make money Bell hay shuck
corn pick corn shuck tobacco I did all those things just to work to keep my mother just keep I was like the man in the house as Mama used to say she felt bad for me because I never had a childhood I was always working trying to help my mother my and my siblings out but I had to start thinking about I want to go to college I always just wanted to go to College I'd hear the teacher say you can do it you can do it and I'd talk to so many people they'd have speakers come to our high school and speak on stage
like convocations and stuff and I'd say I can do that I'm not afraid to talk to a crowd I I can do that and I've just matter of fact my high school named me you don't to love this Mr talkative the most talkative Mr most talk was got the right person they got yeah so it was really funny cuz that came up again but I was most talk to because I was always talking the people going up and I don't care who you were I want to know about you what's going on started going through High School thought maybe Sports might be the way baseball
thought might be the way then had got a little serious with the books had and get that things weren't seeing to go because we didn't have any money to go to college and so what I end up being uh scouted by the Pittsburgh Pirates and told tell story about that on the Pittsburgh Pirates Mr Howard one of the greatest gentem ever met in my life had nine kids his oldest son and I played baseball together but one of his youngest baby sons was Matt Howard who played for Butler oh wow but Mr Howard ever says my mother died my brother died my sister died other
brother died he always bring the kids to the funeral what a gentleman so he got to p m travel the Pittsburgh Pirates Cincinnati graduat was 30 30 25 30 minutes from Connorsville me and my mother were banging heads senior in high school I'm 18 I can't wait to leave I get out of here she so you're gone there's not not no waiting you're gone you're going to go to college you're going to go the to the Army or you're going to work but you're getting out of here MH and she metant that I was 18 I did not know until I was 35 and A2
years old I could come back home wow said you want to be a man you want to be a tough guy you want to go out there she said there you go but at 18 you're out the door you can't come back wow and that made me grow up in so many ways and so the baseball didn't work out so still didn't have anything I graduated in the top fourth of My Honor Society in my high school and a lady name of be be worked for the Indiana Social Security Indiana Department or something can't remember what it was back then and my mother I used
to go with her to scrub people's floors iron her clothes she fixed her meals we clean a couple Office Buildings downtown in cville little small places and she says I want more for you than this and you got to go to college sports wasn't forthcoming and then so I started looking at in um different types of school Business Schools but they were like one year Business Schools nine months and then you can come out work but that didn't seem to work and I went to Pittsburgh and was going to go to Pittsburgh got cut but then my mother called me and B had got me
an a an academic scholarship you're teacher she worked for the it it was State Social Security I if it was a welfare office I can't remember what office it was back then cuz they just took a liking to me wow and got me an some academic scholarships the lion club gave me a little money my church Methodist Church gave me a little money deul was one the college is Nate I was going to go with tigers um just didn't know which I just know I wanted to go yeah and I end up going to the greatest things that ever happened to me educationwise Vincent's University
oh wow vincon University and I just worked for that and vincon took kids like myself troubled fragmented backgrounds somewhat not having the best things in life and worked with us and I end up being on the basketball team not as a player because I got there too late but the coach put me on as a trainer and a student by got the same scholarship wow and then a guy named Mr Cooper He's from Maine was the dorm director and I I going to Vin since early that summer because I got cut from the Pirates and I I got the dates mixed up I was down
there sitting on a bench I had no place to sleep no place to go I had a little few money little money in my pocket I had my car that I worked for and Mr Cooper came out saw me sitting there I said I'm here to start classes so classes don't start for another week or two and what what are you doing for a place to stay I said I don't know sir I said I'll figure it out and he said I'll tell you what I'm over the dormitories I got a room there's no sheets no blankets I'll get you a blanket you can stay
in the dormatory until classes come around start and then he said you got housing I said no sir but I I and he made me an RA oh that's awesome awesome that's yeah you know your your story really reminds me of a quote from one of our other podcast interviews serial entrepreneur who's just talking about how if what you want is someone to to help you show that you're doing the work think about someone who's got their car broken down on the side of the road and if they're just sitting there with their thumb out versus they're there trying to push their car up the
road it's much easier to get someone to come and help you push the car oh great oh you just SPO you guys got me going here something tough said that that just uh took me back based on the question that that you just asked visualization my hometown growing up Connorsville was called little Detroit the dusenberg was built there a part of the studio uh was built there the Avant was built there stamp manufacturer made all the radiator caps back then they had DM metal fabrication built and it had a Ford plant built there so I had the vision to I want to work for but
Ford was number two I've always been a competitor number one I want number one and Jem Motors baby was number one and so was my goal to go to work for Jem Motors Corporation how' you make that happen I was working after college I was working for afmb Bank back then on a career development program I thought I'd be a banker because I love money when you come up poor you you you want money that's right so I don't love money but I just wanted walking around money never hurt nobody no little pocket change to do something and the girls wouldn't go with a poor
guy anyway so strong motivator and so I was working for the bank and I'd gone to a head hunter Morley Mike Morley Irishman Notre Dame through it out and I went into a clear businessman's clearance house what it was called and I said mle Morley I need a a different job one to this is not this is me it's too slow pace I want something challenging Pace like there and he called me up he said J Motors is interviewing in town so going to interview about 100 people you have to be black I said okay and can you be here at 6:00 will be the
last appointment which is right across the street from I love in that situation be the last yeah the last one and I said oh God General Motors yes this is it and my then girlfriend came my fiance we got married now divorced I said look Jer M was in town and she was going to pick me up and her she had a cousin came in from Cleveland so I'm going go here and talk to him when I walked I done enough study about G back in those days you had to be married m they want you to have a mortgage and some kids and that's
way that you'll be with them a lifelong employee back then I hadn't either the last guy come out of the interview was fraternity brother of mine at IU Tommy Britain Tommy was married his wife went to school had a baby work for gmmc J back then and I went all the little self-doubt started going oh he's going to get the job because said another but I thought back mama my grandma saiding ain't nobody better than you yep you earn your stripes like everybody else they put your legs on just like you do one leg at a time so don't you doubt yourself and I went
in true story and sit down and Bud Forman another dust German so I said you're in my family I got and he sit there and back then they were saying blacks because only black because they wanted affirmative action it' be that 10% affirmative action and I went in sit down I was standing up with Mr Foreman he said sit down and he said tell me about yourself I said sir I said can I say something he said yeah what I said Mr fortman if you're going to hire me because I'm black you're going to hire me for 10% affirmative action I'm not your guy true
story he lay back in his chair and he says how much time do you have wow I said I got time 3 hours later I left out wow I'm on jet plane was playing going dating got the job was I was the youngest division manager at 23 was then frin division before I came over to chevolet motor division that's so cool that's awesome I I want to make sure we get a chance to talk about your business because your accomplishments your accolades reads like a highlight reel of international success very generous I'm curious out of all those experience and awards is there one that you
hold particularly near and dear to your heart can we set this up just real quick yeah yeah please and correct me I'm going to have the word slightly wrong if you guys remember the exact words so to set this up you have been involved in 95% of all of the small business export trade agreements free trade agreements yeah free trade agreements over the last six uh consecutive White House six consecutive White House administrations that's amazing thank you and I've been asked to go with the 7th the White House called me back in March and said we you go two more years and give me seven
consecutive White House Administration that's amazing thank you there's a lot that stands out and and I'll tell you I transition from the motivational speaking in training business because I always wanted to know be International Trade I served on the board the Indiana Chamber of Commerce on executive committee there then I became the first black Vice chairman and chairman of the Indiana small business counil and that just got me catapulted up to the US chamber and I did just still had this thing about the world the Globes I just never from third grade those those Globes again yes come to my home and you'll see Globes
around and visualization yep power of visualization and and I was asked we're in the White House they called Business Leaders in president this time President Clinton called Business Leaders in from around the country and they wanted us first meet with Hillary to talk about insurance still they had healthc care and we as Small Business Leaders didn't like that we we just don't like the agenda that she was proposing and she finds out and T year an experts this small business people can be pretty vocal never we we can be pretty vocal so killed that so had us s the in the white house and go
talk about this thing called free trade agreements and NAFTA and President Clinton kept the looking at me he'd walked by he looked he come back again and he would look he back again he would look and my colleagues from around the country said like what's going on he keeps looking at you and I'm going like yeah I said it's a little I said no I never seen before in my life it's a little unnerving and you got the Secret Service i' never been that many any Secret Service agents in my life and we're going back and forth again and so when we're over this secret
Services keep your seat till the president leaves the room two guys two yoos de side they're going to get up early bad mistake I first time I seen this the Secret Service in unison they test those guys some kind of way and boy they just dropped went down so I was like oh we press yeah we ain't moving I'm a brother I definitely ain't moving and so Lexis Herman who ler became a Secretary of Labor came over to me wife she said in her sou voice she said baby she said the president would like to talk with you look like God what's going on you
all right you what's going on I said I don't know but I'm confident in myself but still unnerved because the president United States of America say he's through this door here it's the hallway to the and I go through the door and there's Bill Clinton Matt this is in between you and to that's how close we were wow and I backed up and I said yes certain and he said I hear you're pretty good speaker I said yes Mr President and I hear you know how to handle legislates I said I've had some experience back in Indiana that's we do all right we we get
things done and he said I want you to be my lead on Nat for small mediumsized Enterprises wow don't you be the lead speaker and Advocate wow that was very rememberable for that point on things just shot up Y and then I got to be around other world leaders I got to be a part of of Apec Asian Pacific economic Corporation WTO World Trade Organization I was a delegate you know that for Delegate for the US aian US US Trader braan office we had that we had Tac which is the economic China with world leaders and be on the board of the Chamber of Commerce
I served on International policy committee for 13 years all kinds of world leaders but a lot of times I'm the only black in the room yeah 9 Almost 100% of time only black in the room so they would come to me and they talk and grew up and that hold my skills diplomatically how to deal with world leaders from all over I've met at that time almost every world leader there was who's the who's the most magnetic positive where you got a great vibe from world leader and who is the what are the words I want to use the not so magnetic maybe scariest yeah
world leader you've ever met that gave you the ebgbs be technical technical that's an industry term the scarce one I I can't tell you because there's something going on in the world today sure but that that was an experience one of the ones I have the pictures of is President ephra of Chile and I worked on that Free Trade Agreement as was the first time the show us free trade agreement and we had a big deal on the patomic and on the the spirit of waron which was the yacht and president ephra at that time allowed chili and wine I'm big I'm a huge Wine
Drinker huge I drink it every day oh are you a cab guy or M cab malback or Peno call me anytime or come over you're welcome to come over anytime I've got some for you you're welcome anytime I know show up yeah well you're a big guy so we'll try and find you something looking so we just clicked off and and I have a picture of I'm trying to dig it out for you he was just fascinated with me I was fascinated with him just the energy just um um president C Del when I was at the state state dinner for the White House very
memorable that was one of the most memorable times because my work had paid off with that and he we had a private breakfast and that and then went to Mexico the late Ron Brown into Mexico sign the NAFTA cord I was going tell something about NAFTA here in the morning my my greatest moment and then um um I'm must drop U I had I had a great time with Tong Chi Hall you go to my website mali.com you'll see me shaking hands with tungi Hall which is in that diplomatic room with the US chamber and Tom down he has a white hair in China you
see he me him shaking hands that's the time that he invited me to be his guest on the infamous shot in Hong Kong when China went back to Communism wow it's on my website it was shaking hands oh my God and he was just he was just taken back it was a Chinese you hear different things about you know raceist we fabulously yeah you know with it and so that that's that's a good one there there's so many that that I've I have met time with them but just just one one quick one the the greatest one was all was that my mother God bless
her u i was the first black to move have a business in the a tower downtown one America Y and late Jerry simler me in oh sure and uh i r from I came back from Chicago and resign from General Motors he had space in C back then C was the spot so I I said I can't afford he said we'll work it out he gave me an opportunity he said watch me work watch my Integrity how I had things how I mean all that things that you're an expert at those things go into successful business right small and so U got in there and
uh my then I moved across the street and count to Center North Tower because you know the space was by by Ice M brought my floor out the law firm and first time my mother ever come up you know Indianapolis to see my offices wow that's going to be a big moment me chill and I had all on the wall I mean God's bless I've got enough to you know to go around yeah I bet and she said um she said one day one of my boys was three of us going to go to the White House it's 1987 one of my boys going to
go to the White House and when he does he's going to know how to talk the king's a you he's going how to talk and are going to be shy now most beautiful number one person you know we all think our mother's beautiful right cuz if a man in shoes withing I was that boy you've got a pen on your lapel there on her death bed and cuffing and cuffing her presidential cufflinks on her deathbed with cancer wow I was at the White House and uh she called one of the local guys in in connorville called her Larry Alexander Great basketball player of the 50s
called her my mother said he said uh how you feeling she said oh Larry I'm reports back me you have TV set a TV set on she said yeah she can you get CNN she said so she called the nurse in nurse put on CNN and there was her oldest son the firstborn the chosen one not with one but four presidents of the United States of America and I was on this front side row that's incredible that was that was Bush George Bush President Carter from President Carter and President Ford then President Clinton and Al Gore and I was only one of three black Mes
in that room was one was late Ron Brown and Ron ESP for commer secretary for um um Agriculture and it was on CNN she saw that and she got to see it it passed shortly after that that's incredible powerful yeah yeah what a moment yeah so I don't tell you started off I appreciate you sharing great and I one thing I I would really ever didn't ask um I'm by your statement um we can solve a lot of the world's problems through business for peace and one trade deal at a time yes can you bit on that philosophy yeah U representing the United States all
over the world it's been an honor you know um we're going to have more you know coming up here you know after the first and uh Costa Rica and said I've been the only black who was an entrepreneur now they're blacks may have been there but they were career on my own small business again small business guy woman person go in and but I always gone with world leaders President Clinton once told me President George W bush once told me so we're going to start having you coming in the room because everybody's going to you before they come to us I'm the president of the
United States of America true wow you know I I dressed a little bit so I kept thinking meeting all these people from all the world all walking in everybody literally literally all over the world literally and I just got along with them back those days in Caro always talking to somebody always going around and I said man we have these nice elaborate meals and everybody's everybody's know guards down a little bit they're talking business we're talking trade talking about how to improve trade access to markets and uh you know not about War battle and um I kept saying like boy there's here you know to
do so and each place I started going was doing that for for the for the White House for our great country and the US Chamber of Commerce for our great country going around and I was on a plane going to you know on business it was a a religious business this particular time beside a marine we talked a little bit and had and came his and his wife we talking his phone number and and what have you and he said um come out of your mouth or or peace and trade what you do I said yes sir I said Mal goop worldwide we we facilitate
crossb trade and investment deals we bring those deals together around the world we're over 70 countries around the and um I really enjoyed and I do this house and administration and for uh you Chamber of Commerce and other organizations belong to and you know the world's problem could be solved over a meal I said yester i' been doing it for a lot of years and we talk about trade and I said wow can solve The World's problems over a meal one trade deal at a time I love that yeah I doo well Dr Malachi I got the go I got the name the global Godfather
yeah Global Godfather I was just about to say Dr Malachi Global Godfather Mr talkative get up uh Mastermind it has been a pleasure and I to you for hours if you would allow me to do so but we are to our last couple minutes here um and I was hoping we could do uh Nate's favorite part of the show my favorite part of the show it's called the lightning round all right let's do it these are quick quick hit questions no wrong answers let's do it before we get to the lightning round I kind of just want to we had uh this is just in
my head so we had Mr talkative talkative what was what was your senior superlative oh Lord have mercy I I don't even I don't remember I I mean I was rebelling so hard my junior senior high school that's a whole another and that is the mark of a great pure I say this just real quick the system the system I just want to say this real quick T and I did a little research back we're so honored to have Indiana cuz you you are really known around the world in your Venture Capital your Ventures and you're really you're really Top Flight we're glad to I'm
I'm glad I hear other people talk business Cirus honors we're honored to have you here and what you bought here you could have gone anywhere in the country but you're here with us I appreciate that man let's go I love it well make me emotional all over again this has been a roller coaster of emotion so great uh it's spectacular let's do the lightning round let's do it all right outside of the amazing Entre R preneurial ecosystem what is Indiana known for oh it's got to be quick right quick sports sports basketball basketball um II because I'm a Hall of Famer go Jags I love
that go is that Grant Hill is he also I was 1970 so there we go Hall of Fame that's a whole mother story to go how you went from vincon to iy and we'll get on that episode two what is a Hidden Gem in Indiana it's people we're too damn quiet here we need to brag and talk more about what we do here amen that was a high five we got on the yes absolutely you're so right we got great people here oh god oh and finally who is someone we need to keep on our radar someone who is doing big things in Indiana to
be doesn't have to be oh oh wow I'd say tough that's you know he's he's the epicenter he's the catalst what every business needs right now money um McKenzie just laid off a bunch of people cutting cutting back on salaries Boston Consulting Group is JP Morgan's going do a thing that they're looking for partners for their uh private Equity Group with uh um M Corporation General corporation uh refinancing for for for for money right we're we're little we're in need of it you know so we're going to be around so I'd have that um and spend something carried us i' be close to the money
yeah Christopher day that's a first on this podcast but I I humbled here here thank you here here right here in the nation's nucleus and another guy that I like that's here locally that's doing great things is Emil eor he was on episode I think or four yeah and I are good friends and and he's got he's incredible he's got a heart he's doing things want credit for it he's building build an ecosystem uh so you have you know both sides of that equation yeah I love it well I I can't wait to uh read the uh the headines when you uh get The Nobel
laurate thank I I'll invite you you guys got to come oh absolutely we'll bring some bottles of red wine too some good stuff can say I'm a little intimidated good enough bottle of wine for you no no listen I'm I'm a brother if if it's R we'll drink it real quick um um dler um who was the president of St Clair Chris University uh they the oldest sect of the Orthodox Catholic Church they tied into the Vatican last year on my 72nd birthday the Columbia Club honored me with the International Peace Medallion oh my gosh so I'm one step closer you're one step closer you're
going to get it thank you m you're going to get it thanks congratulations and thank you so much for sharing your time and your stories here today it's been an honor having you on get in I I tough calls I tell him tough calls I come but honors him and and and Matt I read about you and the great things that that you're doing I read about Nate and the great things you're doing and athletes and you know we all and sports you know another way can solve The World's problems through Sports AB the culture plan and absolutely and so it's just a real time
time that to talk about something that's no one's really ever asked me to talk about in a length of time thank you Dr again yeah can I say am I for closing marks yes have a successful day and think globally we doze but never close yeah love that perfect that is perfect way to end mic drop this has been get in a powder production in partnership with Elevate Ventures and we want to hear from you if you have suggestions for our guest or seg reach out to Matt or Nate on LinkedIn or on email to discover top tier tech companies outside of Silicon Valley in
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