Welcome to a special edition of Get In NBA Finals Edition. We have some very fun stuff in store for you today, including an exclusive interview with the mayor of Oklahoma City, Mayor David Holt. I don't know how this quite ended up happening. I saw his op-ed and the Indie Star. I reached out. He was super responsive.
So, we're just going to talk a little bit about some similarities, some differences between Oklahoma City, between Indianapolis. whole kind of dynamic started on their end back in like 1991 when they lost out on a United Airlines contract. It's a super fascinating story. We talked for 25 minutes or so. If you're going out to game five, this is super important. He gives some recommendations to eat while you're out there.
Uh and obviously, you know, I had to rep the Pacers. So, I hope you enjoy this interview with Mayor David Hull. And we have a couple fun segments for you today. We've come to the segment where Shane is taking on the Indiana master. Uh when it comes to naming towns, counties, mascots, all the things. Uh Shane believes that he might know a thing or two about Indiana.
Not mascots. We're going to do counties. So 45 seconds will be on the clock. Shane has to name as many counties as he can in 45 seconds. I want to get to double digits. All right.
He's His goal is to get it to 11. 45 seconds on the clock. Three, two, one, go. Marian, Hamilton, Hrix, Shelby, Porter, Lake, Elcart, Brown, Green. Oh, no. Hit a wall.
Uh, Kasusco, I mean, it's a weird one. K O S C I U S KO. I spelled it. That counts. Um, what else is up in that neck of the woods? No.
Napony. Napony borders. Two of them. Maybe it's in Porter. It's in Porter. This is so hard.
I need one more. How many seconds? Two. Oh, no. Can't get it, [Music] brother. Kas.
Kasiasco. Kasiasco. And Nap and Elcart County on the border of Kaziasco. And Marshall is the third one that's up there. Okay. Do we think I can get four times as many?
I know there's 92. 92 counties. Yeah, dude. 40 and 45 would be nuts. That'd be That'd be crazy. I think we're going to go for 30.
Three, two, one, go. Lake, Porter, Kaziasco, St. Joseph, Elcart, Lraange, um Marshall, Miami, Typicanw, Monroe, Madison, uh Marian, Hamilton, Boone, Henry, Hendris, uh Johnson, Jackson, uh Harrison, Washington, uh Davies, Green, Martin, uh Allen, Wells, Newton, Adams, um, Randolph, oh, got VGO, Putnham, Montgomery, um, Crawford, Lawrence, 33. Well, you started ripping president's names. How many of the US presidents are Indiana counties? How many in a row do you think it goes to?
Nine. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, back to Adams, Jackson. seven in a row. And then we get to Van Beern. There's no Van Beern County, but there's Van Beern Township. Johnson County, Grant County.
11 presidents. Indiana County is named after. How are any of the more recent ones supposed to get a county? Everything's claimed. I mean, Reagan County, come on. Yeah, it would be beloved by everyone.
Reagan County, here's a petition, Mr. Braun. How about you? How about you set aside some space for Reagan County? We've come to the end of this week's try to stump the master when it comes to things Indiana. Uh Shane got 3310 final score and uh you know to be better.
Well we hey it's all about just getting better. Stay tuned next time. I think we're going to take on towns as we go into game four. You and I both know it is really critical to our teams. But that's what's fun about this. I mean seven game series.
And I still feel like sometimes our fan base in Oklahoma City is still relearning what's that what that's like because we didn't go to the playoffs for like five years and then we didn't win a series between 16 and and uh you know 24. So to actually go through an the the excruciating emotions of a seven game series is something you have to like condition yourself to and and it is so easy for people to like swing wildly back and forth because every game oftentimes kind of like appears to completely shift the momentum to one team or the other. Now that's a fans experience. You you hope to God you actually have a team of players who aren't paying attention to any of that stuff. But like from a fans perspective, these seven game series can be nuts, you know, and we we I would hope that like our fans having already lived through the um Nugget series uh earlier this playoff run like sort of know how this can go, right?
And this is actually this this game um this this series so far in its first three games has exactly matched the uh rhythm of the Thunder Nugget series earlier this playoffs. So, we've been here before as a fandom. You know, we'll see. Um, again, everybody watching this knows what happened in game four, and they know that one of us is a lot happier than the other one, but it's been a great series. It's been a lot of fun so far, and of course, it may only be halfway done. Did you go to the two home games, of course.
Yes. I mean, like, that's my s of duty, you know? Like, yeah. No, there's no way. I I have not missed the home playoff game the whole the whole run. Oh, heck yeah.
I'm uh we were at like a local bar for the first one and then I'm going tonight to game four. So hopefully hopefully I'm jazzed up. Um I do want to take a minute like this is not just the basketball podcast. This is like the get in podcast where we talk all things Indiana. And again like I kind of reiterated earlier on in the show, this whole thing started from your oped that made it into the indie star. And I remember like scrolling through and seeing it and I was just like as I started to read it, I was taken aback because going into a very competitive NBA finals, you would think it's like I'm like, "Oh man, did he did this guy take out an ad to like trash talk our city?
Like what's going on?" Like you you go in there a little fired up like anger, not angry, but like expecting to be mad. And I came out of it like, "Oh shoot, dude." Like this is a really genuine and kind thing to say. And this all kind of trickles back to what is it? 1993 metropolitan area projects.
This whole thing that that happened in Oklahoma City uh back in 93 to to tell your listeners the the premise of of the op-ed that you're referencing leading up to this uh as it appeared the Pacers were going to be the opponents in the NBA finals. Uh and for us, you know, making it to the NBA Finals feels like a history making thing. You know, we're not there. We don't have 17 championships like the Celtics, right? So, I mean, like, so, so it it takes on all this this added meaning. And so, as this was approaching, people would come up to me and say, "Isn't that crazy?"
Like, they were going to play Indianapolis considering our history, you know, and of course, I'm very familiar with that history. But it occurred to me as the series approached that the people of Indianapolis might not be aware of that history because it was probably more meaningful to us than it was to Indianapolis, especially the way um it all turned out in on Indianapolis. That funny that sometime like the best the best lessons come after like defeat versus victory, right? So, so there was this United Airlines maintenance facility. It was supposed to have by different accounts 6,000 7,000 jobs. That's an insane number of jobs.
Like as a mayor today, if I'm chasing something that has a thousand jobs, that's like a huge deal. So like I can't even fathom six or 7,000 jobs. And think of it in a city like uh you know in Oklahoma City, we were like half the size back then. So it's even more impactful. So this was kind of analogist, I think, um, in terms of the scale and and the public spectacle of it to what people may think of in more recent years as the Amazon 2 um, battle between cities to try to get like the second Amazon headquarters. So in 1991, Indie and OKC were uh, finalists for this opportunity.
And I mean here in OKC, we passed we had a a vote of the people to create a sales tax to incentivize this. That's how big a deal it was. And uh and so it went to Indianapolis and instead and of course Indie doesn't have oceans or mountains but you know has other charms but but we didn't we needed to learn about those charms and better understand them because it to us from our perspective it might have seemed like hey what's the big difference between these two inland landlock cities? And so our mayor actually traveled to Indianapolis after that defeat in 1991 and he saw a vibrant downtown and he saw a city with two major league professional sports teams and you know in OKC in 1991. We didn't have any major league professional sports teams. We uh had one downtown hotel.
I mean our del our downtown was completely dead. That really was the catalyst, that defeat to Indianapolis was the catalyst that caused him to introduce to the voters in 1993 what we now know locally very well as the maps initiative, maps, metropolitan area projects. It's generally a one-scent temporary sales tax that builds a collection of quality of life projects. And by quality of life, I mean things that aren't street resurfacing and drainage and police stations, but things like arenas and stadiums and parks. And uh most of it in the first iteration of it in 1993 was downtown. It was entertainment related and as it turned out it planted the seeds for a lot of sports uh centric success later.
Um and so maps passed but barely 53% and the project started opening a few years later. Um and then I should also add I was part of a delegation to Indianapolis in 2006. there was like a hundred civic leaders who went to Indie and we toured all of your sports venues uh including of course your arena and this was two years before we got the Thunder. So, um you look at us today and we've got like 30 downtown hotels and we're the 20th largest city in the United States and the lowest unemployment and we're in the NBA finals and we've also especially leverage sports. We've also got the women's college week series. We've got seven events of the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics coming here.
Um, all of these things have happened over the last 30 years. And the point of the op-ed was sort of to say like, hey, not sure any of this would have happened if we hadn't lost to Indianapolis in 1991 and and then subsequently learned from Indianapolis. So, I mean, Indie was first our foil, but then our inspiration and um and so for us, it's a bit poetic uh that it wanted these sort of history making moments on the court um that we're playing Indianapolis. uh because from our perspective, we've always been sort of linked over the decades. Well, that's super cool and I think a lot of our listener base won't have that appreciation for what that means to you all in Oklahoma City. What I think is interesting is like the first maps that that patch you said 53%.
But then more more recently, it just got extended through 2034 and that was 71%. So, right like like v voter I think I reread that. Yeah. Well, a couple things have I've run since I became mayor. One was maps four. So now we run we we number them like a movie series.
So now we're on the fourth iteration maps 4 and it passed in 2019 with uh 72% and it has 16 projects. Sports is in there. I mean like there's a new like soccer stadium in the in maps 4. However, what you're referencing is in 2023 our original lease with the Thunder was expiring. And so we're taking that same sales tax penny. Now it's not really we don't call it maps because it's just one subject.
Uh, it's just the arena. But we also voted with 71% a six-year one-cent sales tax that'll take effect after MAPS 4 that's going to build a billion dollar arena in downtown Oklahoma City that also has secured for us a 25-year commitment to play in that arena from the Oklahoma City Thunder. So, we've secured the Thunder for another generation. And also, we're going to have a heck of an arena. Like, I'm really excited that we're finally bringing like a real NBA level budget to to our arena. and and I'm excited to to see that roll out over the next 3 years.
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Uh, this was 2008 when you when Oklahoma City got the Thunder, correct? Yes. Mhm. What has having a professional sports team in Oklahoma City meant for you all? I often say that in America, having a major league team, either in MLB, NFL, or NBA is the closest thing that America has to bestowing a blue ribbon on its top cities. And your first one is is the one that like elevates you into a new tier, into a whole new discussion.
I mean, people just look at you differently, talk about you differently, you know, they think of you differently. It is a shorthand way of saying like we're a city that matters. And I mentioned we're the 20th largest city, but we're the 42nd largest market. We we fall down the rankings when you throw in our suburbs. So obviously market is what matters to um professional sports because they just they just care about how many people live in the general area and could buy tickets and watch our games. And so 42nd in a market, you know, in a sport where there's 30 teams is like going to be on the bubble, you know, like you're not likely to have a team if you don't do something a little extra.
And that's why we approve we we approved our arena and did so with such an overwhelming margin because people here haven't had a team so long that they don't remember what life was like um before it was very different and and and it's it it goes far far beyond basketball. I mean the the economy is more diversified. Our population is growing dramatically. Our food scene is on fire. We got James Beard award-winning chefs all over town. We've got um you know an art scene that's that's elevated.
the downtown is thriving. Um, so it's it's like what and I should also add like we also have the economic wherewithal to work on issues like homelessness and mental health. Um, you know, we're doing things that we couldn't do when we were a much smaller city on every front. So, it really is like before and after 2008. Um, and that's why it's been so wellreceived here and why we've been willing to continue investing in it. I think it's interesting contrast.
you know, Indianapolis didn't have quite such a dramatic move because you the Pacers were an ABA team and so you sort of like backed into your first major league sports team as they as they uh merged with the NBA. Um, and also the NBA, the NBA weren't as big a deal when you first got your team and obviously when you got the NFL team, I'm sure that was another shift. Um, but you can't quite pinpoint the moment like we can. It was like it was like the world changed in October of 2008, you know, when we got a team permanently. Of course, we hadn't that's a whole another story, but we auditioned for a team by by hosting the Hornets for two years from uh '05 to07. Um but when it but but we knew that was temporary when we really got our own team um that we didn't have to share with anybody else, that was a that was a big moment.
And yeah, it's it's just changed us forever because it's really changed fundamentally our identity. It's it's it's not just about like something fun to do 41 nights a year. It's a it's a shift in the way that we see ourselves and the way others see us. I'm just so impressed with Yeah. You talk about like knowing that exact moment, October 2008, you get a team. Uh and then like you know, fast forward what you were elected uh was this 2018 as the is it 2018 for your first term?
Uh youngest mayor since 1923. Uh, I've just been so impressed looking at your background and like how you're leaning into social media. Like I think you have 40ome thousand followers on Instagram. Like that's super cool as like a younger guy who gets most of my news and content through social media to see someone that's like really leaning into that. I don't know. I just think that's super cool to see you at the helm leading this the city.
And I loved your bet with Mayor Hoget. Uh, I do need to know about a couple of the things. So, one, it was a great like tie into you're hosting uh what whitewater rafting for the Olympics in 2028. Yeah. Right. Like so cool.
You do have to tell me about uh Cattleman's Steakhouse. Is that what it is? Is that like is that like the spot that is? I I chose it because it is like a hundred years old. It's in our stockyards area, so it's adjacent to where we are actually people are actually selling cows, you know. Wait, like there's an actual stockyard in Oklahoma City?
Yeah. Yeah. That's sick. Respect. Yeah. Yeah.
So, um, so Cattleman's is sort of historic. I I am sure you could have a whole podcast debate about, you know, what's really the best steakhouse. Um, and some people from your city or people from here who know both places thought, oh, well, you know, really the St. Elmo's of Oklahoma City is this or whatever. You know, you didn't really I just felt like, in my view, picking the one that seemed uh to have the most history, sort of iconic. Um, of course there's many great steakhouse experiences in Oklahoma City, but I know you couldn't go I couldn't go wrong with uh with Catattleman's just because it's the uh it's the grand dom of uh OKC steak.
So So in this vein, we got to ask we have some some loyalist listeners that are going out for uh game five in Oklahoma City. So when they're there, okay, we need the recommendation from the from the Oklahoma City guy. What do people need to visit? Obviously going to the game, cheering on the Pacers. Where are the places that people need to visit while they're out there? Things to visit that you should do even if you only have a day, you know, the the Oklahoma City National Memorial and Museum.
So that's about the April 19th bombing uh in 1995 that killed 168 of our residents. It's a beautiful uh memorial. It's a really well done museum. And I recognize like, you know, How old are you, Nate? I am 28. Right.
So, you weren't even alive. So, this was 30 years ago when this happened. So, it's a really important story that I think carries lessons for today and certainly people like you um could certainly benefit from I think experiencing that. It was a major historical event when it happened, but you know, the passage of time is relentless. So, that would be one thing that's unique. Um, another thing would be the First Americans Museum.
So, we're the capital of a state with 39 tribes. um that's very much a part of our uh of our history and our culture. And so a few years ago, we opened a $200 million museum to to native and indigenous history and culture um not too far from downtown. And so I would definitely suggest that if you're looking for attractions. Um and we also have if you're into western culture, we also have the the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum, sometimes locally called the Cowboy Hall of Fame. Um, it's been around for for many decades and and it's got all kinds of western art and all of that.
For food, I'll give you categories. I mean, there's like steak obviously and there's a lot of great steakous downtown. Um, you know, there's Mahogany and Bob's and Mickey Manels and Broadway 10 and Red Stock and Bond. I mean, I could just go on and on. And of course, Cattleman's over in the stockyards. Food scene that's that's far more sophisticated.
I mean, is is like tasting menus, you know, like cutting edge stuff. I mean, every you got to Google every ingredient. You have no idea what this is that you're eating. None such is currently up for a James Beard award for best restaurant in the country. Um, you can't go wrong there. And then Andrew Black is a chef uh who has several restaurants in downtown Oklahoma City who won the James Beard a couple years ago for best chef.
Um, so those are some great options. um you but there's there's there's great little neighborhood and entertainment districts around the city like the Plaza District, the PO District, the Western Avenue District. These are all places where you would find great restaurants as well. And I'd also add, we have a great uh a thriving Vietnamese immigrant community that came here in the 70s and 80s. So, if you like f, there's like a whole Asian district that's full of all kinds of uh cool f places. And then of course in downtown there's an entertainment district adjacent to real close to the arena called Bricktown.
It's got all kinds of stuff. I mean you can eat um you know chain restaurants there or you can get something a little more local. But um lots of great food options. And then uh hopefully they already have their hotels because that's probably a little difficult right now but certainly they'll find something and there's but like I said we got 30 hotels downtown now so it's not so not as challenging as it would have been in 1991 but you wouldn't have come here in 1991. Yeah, that's fair. Um, I kind of have three three final pieces and I know we're we're getting close on time.
First one, when did you guys get the College Softball World Series? Great question. You know, it was in the 80s that we invested in the stadium and like just slowly built ourselves up as the softball capital of the world. And of course, we're the home of the Hall of Fame. We're the home of the governing body for the United States. Um, we got the World Series in the early 90s, but honestly at that time I don't I mean we I don't know that it was that in demand, you know, like I don't think we had to compete too hard.
Uh I think the stands were pretty empty in the early 90s. And it was really ESPN highlighting it like it did for so many years that turned it into this amazing event and we just had record ESPN ratings for the for the most recently concluded um World Series as well as record attendance. I think 120,000 total people. So, it's been an amazing event for us and it obviously paved the way for us to host the Olympic softball tournament in 2028, which uh is super cool. So, um yeah, that's that's been really special and we're the home of it for 203 till 2035 at least. We've invested majorly in the stadium, which is the biggest in the world.
I love that. That's really cool. Uh and to like win something like we're the softball capital of the world. So fun. Uh two things for you like a a two-part question here. one, yeah, what is something that Hoosiers need to know about Oklahoma City?
And the other part of that is like what's what is Oklahoma's impression of Indiana and Indianapolis? I would hope that being a city like Indianapolis that like it or not, you know, people in the coasts probably look down upon just as much as they do Oklahoma City, even though you're a little bigger than us. Um, I would hope that uh Indianapolis would be open-minded to the idea that yeah, that OKC's pretty darn big nonetheless. Got a lot of cool things going on. Um, and uh, yeah, I I I recognize there's maybe not a lot of tickets uh, available, but um, should another opportunity present itself or maybe for a regular season game next year, we would certainly love to have uh, some visitors, you know, and I think um, our impression of Indianapolis is of uh, of a city with again kind of as we've already talked about a lot of similarities to OKC um a little bigger than us so a little you know and had sports teams before us so like a little ahead of us um but I think a city like ours can look at an Indianapolis and say hey like we can you know we can absolutely aspire to that um you know that's where we're heading and uh and so yeah I have a lot of a lot of respect for Indianapolis I I think these are cities um like so many others um in the inner part of the United States that are bigger than they ever get credit for because so much of this narrative is driven by people in New York and California, you know, and they just they're like they're actually the most insecure people in the country because they just constantly have to like like puff themselves up and and and diminish what is happening in in the rest of the country.
But um the reality is there's a lot more of us than there are of them, right? And so, you know, we got to stick together and uh and I think that Indie and OKC are shining examples of uh interior cities that are growing that people are recognizing offer a really high quality of life generally with a better ease of living and cost of living than they would find elsewhere. And uh I'd like to think of this NBA Finals as like a a little bit of a coming out party for our two cities. you know, reminding people that that there's uh that there's a lot uh there's a lot to admire about city about cities such as ours. I mean, talk about like the biggest shift. We go from playing the Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals where like a Pacers fan walking in New York gets like jumped and beat up, right?
To then the mayor of Oklahoma City in the NBA Finals, riding an OPET in the Indie Stars saying, "Thank you for like helping kickstart this." like talk about just like the difference between the coasts and the middle of the country. Uh I know we're at time. Uh Mayor Holt, I appreciate you coming on and sharing your story. I think this is something that makes these middle of the country a lot of people on the coach like the flyover. It's like no, come on, take it easy.
These like the heart of America, right? Makes it so special. like you're willing to come on to an all Indiana, all Indianapolis show and tell us a little bit about, you know, Oklahoma City, the history, and just learning about all the crazy cool things you have going on in the future, right? You said 25 more years, like you guys have like the Thunder are in for the next 25 years. Yeah. So, we'll open our new arena in 28.
And then from that point forward, it's 25 years. So, it'll be beyond 2050 that we're secure. And I can't wait for you to see the renderings of uh our arena. You guys have a great arena, but honestly, when you see our new arena, you might say, "Uh oh, maybe maybe we got to maybe we got to reinvest." The 25 finals are just the beginning. I can see this is going to be like a middle like Midwest of from Indiana to Oklahoma.
This is the next 10 years. We'll just play each other in the finals. It'll be awesome. That'd be great. I'm all in on that. Hey, I just want to say as we close out, I appreciate you taking the time and it's awesome to see again like all the social feedback from the Oklahoma City residents who just rave about you.
It was like Mayor Holt needs to run for president, run for governor, run for all these like they like and legitimately today, this is 2025, nobody hypes up politicians, but like to see that happen for you. I was just like I I had to reach out and see if we can get a conversation. I appreciate it, man. Take it easy. Uh I will say, go Pacers. They got to get the job done.
Um and that's what you got to do. Yeah, I understand. And by the way, I would say so many people sent me your clips. You obviously have a lot of followers even in Oklahoma City somehow and uh when it happened. So, so, uh, yeah. No, that was great.
Thank you. I'm so glad we connected. Thanks for having me on. And obviously, it's my contractual obligation to to end my appearance here by saying Thunder up. Thank you'all for listening to that exclusive exclusive interview with Mayor David Holt. We will say, go sir.
We got game five. We're going to get the job done. Uh, I am joined here in studio for with a very, very special guest. I've got the man, the pizza legend, Tommy Barrett. Tommy, what's up, dude? Hey, thanks Nate.
I appreciate you, dude. I'm really pumped. All right. So, we're going to do a little quick segment here because we're talking shop when it comes to pizza. This all starts with a question. Definitely starts.
Starts with a question. The question is, what is the Indianapolis Pizza Festival? The conjoining of all the pizza in Indiana. And we're trying to find the best. We are finally going to find an answer to all the questions I always ask. Hopefully after August 9th, we'll find and say this is the best pizza for the next year.
The reigning champ. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a belt. Yeah.
Absolutely. Okay. So, August 9th, it's in a pretty cool venue, Monument Circle. Maybe you've heard of that, maybe. People, uh, how many pizza vendors can we expect? 35 and 40 spots.
35 to 40 spots. How does it work for patrons? You buy a ticket, you walk in, and you're in pizza heaven. You just eat as much. Do you have to buy the pizza when you get in there? No, it's going to be little sample slices.
But what I will allow is like if you really, really like a pizza spot, buy a whole pizza, take it home, like, you know, cuz there's going to be 40 spots. You're going to be full after having samples. already sample pieces. Yeah. Like little sample cuts, right? If you really want something, you really want to support somebody's business, then go buy a whole pizza.
What I mean, you can't have pizza without some some beer. Some drinks. There will be some beer. What kind of beer? What kind of drinks are we talking? We're talking some good beer.
And we're talking something exclusive. I don't know if I'm ready to announce. Oh, we're going to have our own special beer that day. Wow. Well, you know who you also need? They're friends of the show.
You actually were I think you put one in your What? Who? What's Gemco? Uh that is the presenting sponsor of the Indianapolis Pizza Festival. So there it's Brandon. He knows what he's doing.
He's got Shout out JMCO. You know, uh another one you might need to talk to. We got beer. You might need some Dad Water there. They're like a big partner of mine. They do.
They are awesome Indiana people. Let's get dad water at the festival. I'll make an intro there. We can make it happen. But the reason I brought Tommy on today is not to just give a subtle shout out to the Indianapolis Pizza Festival, which I will be attending. The reason that Tommy's here is because we're going to give some some hot outakes.
The fun part about this is at the at Indie Pizza Fest, like the world's going to decide what the best pizza is. But here, we get to decide. We're going to do top three pizza across the state of Indiana. Where are your favorite spots are? We'll give a little 3 22 2 1 maybe some bonus, some shout outs, some honorable mentions. We're talking all things pizza.
First, I want to know what what goes into like the best pizza for you. Sauce and dough, right? Like I'm a big sauce guy. Like it has to be a little bit sweet. Definitely homemade. I think sweetness in a in a sauce is so important.
And then the dough has to be fresh. You can tell right away if you have bad dough or you have bad pizza. One one in the get in Indie Pizza Fest draft is I'm not saying that this is the best pizza in Indiana because there's only one way to find out what the best pizza in Indiana is and that's August 9th. After saying that, I'll go Futuro. You mother. I knew it.
He knew that was my one-1. Uh Yelp voted that second best pizza in the Midwest. Yelp, we did a nice little uh uh giveaway tickets with the Yelp elites. Did you? The Yelp elites. Oh yeah.
They wanted me to be an elite. I was like, they're wild. Shout out to Futuro. It's fire. I will say everyone has to know it's Detroit style. It is Detroit.
But I also like the tavern style. Maybe a little bit better. Whoa. Yeah. Hot take. I mean, uh that is a hot take.
The Detroit style. The turbo meter. Sure. That's why I did one one. But like I said, it's not I'm not saying it's the best. Just saying that's what I would choose.
They did not win the 574 pizza bracket, but they were the best pizza in there. And it's Venturi. Okay. I've heard of them in Goan. Okay. Go Indiana.
I invited them. It's a little tough for them to come. They said Venturi pizza in Goan, Indiana. This is your formal invitation to join my man Tommy Barrett at the Indianapolis Pizza Festival on August 9th because I believe you. I'm taking you with my one two. That's good.
I believe that you have a shot at the title. Hey, best pizza in Indiana. That's pretty good. Right back to me. King Dough. Yeah, I knew you that one.
I didn't know. How many locations does Bazmo have? Uh, too many. Too many. Oh, all right. Oh, all right.
Uh, my I knew you were going Kingdo. My what I be 21 was Kingo. It's fire. It's really good. And you have to like the fancy pizza. Reed and and and team.
They're amazing over there at Kingdo. Um really really need them at the festival. We need you. Come on. Who are you taking with Tutu? Tutu.
Uh, no, don't even have to think about it. Brooklyn Char. See, he's going to know these boutique pizza spots. Where's Brooklyn char? Brooklyn char is like 146 in Grey Road. Dude, did did you just put a video out?
And did Mantis also just put a video out with them? Yeah, we we did a little combo. Oh, you guys were together. Okay. It's like New York style, right? Yeah.
Brooklyn jar. The sauce is wonderful. This the style of dough is how I like it in New York. It's a very good pizza. Final pick goes to you cuz I know you won't pick the one I have. First pick of the third round.
My final choice to complete my goated list already. 10,000 Degree Pizza in Mount Summit, Indiana. Wow, that's a great pull. That's a great pull. They disassembled that brick oven in Boston, right? Or like or they like transported the oven from Boston.
I'm glad you know. That means the respect level I have for you because you know it is is high. I know you're the small the small city, bro. I don't know cuz I know you're I know you're the town guy. I know it cuz it's a small right now. I'm telling you my respect level is there we go.
We'll take that. That's a really good poll. They are awesome. It's like from I post this was one of my early videos. I maybe had 10 or 12,000 and I posted a video about Mount S and they were like, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much." Like and I then I did the research about how they moved that hour.
So my list is goated. You can't beat it. Futuro, Brooklyn, 1000 degree. You're getting every different kind of zah. You got a Detroit style, a Chicago style, a New York style, and then you got a woodfire style. Bro, you're not beating my list.
You did. That's a good list. I'm going to round mine out. I'm drafting. Who's got a shot at the title? We're going Bridges.
Oh, Bridges Pizza. I don't know anything about Bridges Pizza. You don't know anything. So, Bridges found out. Do you like right now? Literally, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Bridges Pizza and Wine Bar. Okay. This is in Greencastle. I think you got to get them involved. Should I call them right now? Yeah, let's call them.
All right, we'll call them. Hell yeah. This is sick. But they they imported this woodfired pizza oven. Oh, they're closed. But I'll still call them.
Leave a voicemail. They will. I not joking. I'm calling them. Yeah. Dang it.
We're live. Tell them we're live on the air right now. When you guys Yeah. Yeah. We're not live, but they'll see this on Monday. 100%.
You've reached Bridges Craft Pizza and Wine Bar located at 19 North Indiana Street, Green Castle, Indiana. Our hours are Tuesday through Saturday till 9 p. m. For reservations, please visit Open Table or you can leave a message after Open Table. They're legit. This guy sounds friendly.
I'm definitely leaving a message. Are not confirmed until you receive a phone call from one of our staff members. Thank you so much. Hey, how you doing? Uh this is Tommy Barrett with the Indianapolis Pizza Festival. I'm actually sitting here with Nate Spangle.
Uh pretty popular guy down there in Green Castle back in the day. Uh would love for to invite you guys to the Indianapolis Pizza Festival. Uh he says you guys have some of the best pizza in Indiana. I've never tried it. Would love for you to get in contact with me. So just email me at indie pizzafestgmail.
com. Love to have you guys. You you were in my top three of pizza in the state of Indiana. You'll probably see this clip on Instagram at some point. Uh love the pizza. I hope you make it to the Indianapolis Pizza Festival on August 9th.
We'll see you there. See you soon. I wasn't lying. Let's go. We're just ripping cold. just want to make things happen for the city of Indianapolis in the state of Indiana.
You and I can agree on that. There it is. That's a wrap. Our top three pizzas. I will say uh we did say a couple bonus ones of like quick hitter pizza. Y like I do love a Greeks pizza.
Like if if I'm between like Greeks, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, like those kinds. If you're in the north side, you're going to Treymore, you're going to Pion, you're going to Greeks right there on 116th Street. And a spot that not a lot of people know about and it just opened back up after a fire. Pizzaology up on 146 in Hazel. Great, great pizza. Tommy, thanks for swinging by.
Of course. Thanks for uh telling us about Top Through Pizza August 9th. August 9th on Monument Circle. How much are tickets? Where can we buy tickets? GA tickets?
$30. VIPs. I got a couple left. Just a handful. $75. What is the VIP?
You get a little drinks, a little inside stuff, you know, trying different stuff that maybe is not just pizza. Um, and then also just like a VIP tent that you can hang out with, beer and wine and different things like that. It'll be fun. Uh, and kids tickets 12 and under, uh, $15. It'll be a very familyfriendly environment. Live music.
Jay Baker is confirmed. Uh, celebrities coming in yourself, you know, celebrity judge over here. Yeah, absolutely. So, it'll be good, dude. I appreciate it. I love your passion for indie.
I love your passion for pizza. And the question will be answered, who's got the best pizza in Indiana? That's the day we finally decide. Thank you for listening to this episode of Get In. If you like what you heard, make sure you leave us a review wherever you listen to podcast. This show is made possible by our friends up at Sweetwater.
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