How do we kind of make sure that those smaller artists continue to live and exist and thrive in this city? This is built to be a hub of arts and culture throughout throughout the city of Indianapolis. Yeah. It doesn't just have to be led music. And I think that's really exciting to think about the opportunities like how do you just as much book someone as like pitch them to come and play at the vote. From South Bin to Evansville and everywhere in between.
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Now, let's get back into the show. My guest today is Jenny Boys, the CEO of 45. Now, 45 is one of the largest independent concert promoters in the entire state. They are the company behind the historic Vogue Theater, Rock the Ruins at Holiday Park, and have a new initiative coming up this summer that you're going to want to hear about. Uh today we're going to be talking about the work that they're doing to elevate the music scene within the Hoosier State. Doing a venue breakdown all around the state of Indiana, talking about some of our favorite places and and a few venues that need to be on your bucket list, whether it's this summer or going forward.
And we're going to round it out by talking through the other ways that Jenny is plugging into her Indiana community. Welcome to Get In. Glad to be here. I am I'm super pumped for this one. So the Vogue Theater, I don't want to totally give away our studio location, but it's it's right in the neighborhood, right? So, so very very close proximity and uh I mean I've been there for a ton of really fun events and concerts and shows.
I mean from my time at Powder Keg, we hosted events there to oh my gosh, I saw Jesse McCartney on his like Yes. Everybody has a Vogue story. Everyone, right? Uh what is it? Rod Tough Curls on New Year's friends of ours. Yes.
Spectacular time. So, obviously, I mean, we we know a lot of people know the Vogue Theater, but I would say not as many people know the the work that goes in behind that, right? They know that the brand that is the Vogue Theater, but you see a lot and I see it coming up and now that I know who you guys are and all those things, I see 45 Presents on a ton of stuff like I made rock and roll, right? Uh Rock the Ruins, uh and and all the shows that are happening at the Vogue. So, give us a little bit of a overview of what 45 is. Yeah.
Um it's exciting and it's good to hear you're uh seeing us everywhere. That's kind of the goal and we're in this growth phase that um I think people are really receiving well and excited about. So um happy to be here talking about it for sure. So the ownership group that bought the Vogue bought it in 2019 which was a hell of a time to buy a lot of music. The perfect time to have a venue and uh one that was you know obviously uh came with quite a bit of responsibility. Historic um kind of legends have played on that stage and you know our responsibility kind of we took really seriously from the beginning.
So 2019 probably only six months of of live music wanting to bring back the theater as a true live music venue. What was it before 2019? So it was live music but they started to kind of really sprinkle in quite a few dance nights and we still do that quite a bit but um really this kind of concerted effort to say like the majority of shows we want to put on that stage are going to be live music again. What's a what's a dance show? Yeah. So let's see.
You know one that does so well all the time is a Taylor Swift dance night. Oh like DJ comes in theme. Yeah. Yeah, they come artist themed nights where if you just want to come and hang out with your friends or bring your bachelorette party, you just want to dance all night. You don't really need a live band playing. Um, you don't care about who's actually on stage, you're just there with your friends.
Um, we do a lot of those. Is it live music or is it DJ? DJ. DJ. Is that like Didn't you guys do like Shrek night or something? Shrek night.
Shrek night kills it. Um, what's the other one the other day that was we do K-pop? We've started to introduce some new kind of, you know, uh, themes that I think people are really receiving. But most of that's just how go with your friends and be a little weird, right? right? You don't really care.
It's not an artist you've been uh you're traveling to come see. You know, I think the ownership group before um did a really great job and has has kind of nurtured that. In 2019, these guys thought, let's let's keep that alive. Let's bring live music back to Broadripple. Let's continue to do this co hits. Um, and kind of after a year or so, kind of saying, how do we make sure that not only we keeping people employed, our staff employed, but we're also making sure that we're using live music in the ways that we still fundamentally believe live music can be used, which is to bring people together um to kind of create joy, build community, and also kind of be an economic catalyst for not only people that we employ, but the folks around, artists, all of uh everybody that's kind of involved there.
So, it's actually how Rock the Ruins started. So, we kind of thought about, hey, there's we haven't aren't back in person indoors yet. um where do we go? How do we do this? And so that's really where kind of some connections and conversations with Indie Parks and then ultimately Holiday Park kind of came to be. The first year of Rock the Ruins, you were sitting in a kind of painted box with your friends for a show.
It was really social distanced was the first year really kind of saying how do we keep again live music alive, artists employed, our own employees um you know making money. And so that's how Rock Thruin started. I think since then there was kind of this itch of like hey there's a need and there's a desire for outdoor um events, outdoor live music and that's really where we kind of stepped in and said how do we keep growing that and making sure that this not only is a brand that people uh can respect and we're bringing really good talent um but we're also kind of leveraging partnerships like Indie Parks, making sure that people have access to this in a way that you know if you don't want to drive all the way up north um for an outdoor show, how do you do that in a really beautiful venue? Um, and one that I quite frankly am really proud of, uh, living in in Indianapolis. It's a beautiful park, holiday park, and quite frankly, who doesn't want to see a concert, uh, surrounded in the woods on an Indiana summer night.
So, um, yeah, and Rock the Ruins just really grew from there and we're continuing to grow and think about outdoor role. What season is this for Rock the Ruins? So, this is five. This is the fifth year. I will say for anyone like I went to my first, which is embarrassing to say, but I went to my first Rock the Ruin show last year. Okay.
Who did you see? Well, originally I was going to see Ellie. Oh, El King. L King, but it got rained out and it was like crazy. He was like, "Oh, here we go. Can we do it?
Are we not doing it?" So then I went the next week to Hippo Campus. Oh yeah. I had never I didn't know any of their songs. I listened to him that week and I was like, "Okay, I'm just going to go back and do this." And it was awesome.
It was You're in, you know, the heart of Holiday Park. You're outside. Beautiful evening. Like it was so cool. And it could be anyone. It could have been jazz, rap, anything.
I could like all the spectrum. You're having a great time. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting you said it because what's really great about Holiday Park 2, at least Rock the Ruins as a brand, is it's allowed us to bring in a diverse group of genres, too. So, you just mentioned a country artist on one night and then a really young kind of like funk, indie, pop group that, you know, the next week.
Um, and that's the beauty of Rock the Ruins, right? is we're able to kind of plug and play and put together some a really cool lineup that that we hope spans a lot of genres and a lot of uh age groups and a lot of diverse. If I had to put in my two cents like not that El King is not a real country artist like she's great. It's very like pop country but if we brought some like rising star country artist I would pack the house. Yeah. Last season we had Charlie Crockett sold out and and just it was such a good such a good vibe.
Such a good um show. Beautiful night. Yeah. And so we're trying to continue to think about who are those what are the genres that people are really excited about and country wins every time indoors and outdoors quickly. Country rocks. It's like it's never been cooler to be country than it is right now.
Like Post Malone drops a true uh Beyonce drops her country. Give Beyonce her credit. I think she she's more than what we probably are are uh giving credit to. And as a Beyonce fan, I would say that she has a huge huge kind of role to play there. But yeah, everybody, especially here in Indiana, people are excited. It's old school.
It's outlaw country. It's people do still like pop country. Um even our indoor space, we just had a really young artist um you know come through turntable which is our newest indoor venue. Um and brought a group of of young people and c and fans that I've never seen in our venue before. Cowboy hats everywhere and people were really really excited about it. Um his name was Kenny Fieldler.
Um so a young guy who's doing country. Um it was recently. Yeah. Just a couple weeks ago. and he um again I think to me I think what we want to do at 45 and we continue to do I think Rock the Ruins is a venue and a vehicle to do that but we've tried to pop up other spaces is to kind of say like who does who do people in the city want to hear um who are they kind of listening to uh and how do we make sure that those artists you know have a stage to play on so that they're able to kind of come and and and build their fan base in that way in our venues too. Oh, it's so you know one that's that's rising in country stardom that actually might be perfect for Rack the Ruins at some point.
We might be out growing it soon is Steven Wilson Jr. We had Steven Wilson Jr. No way. It was interesting. We had him probably three months ago, three or four months ago. He sold out.
Um was it in the Vogue? He was in the Vogue. Oh, okay. He sold out very, very quickly. It was interesting. It was fun to watch because I think it was his first tour that he had kind of, you know, had either switched or transition management.
Um and so that you know his touring manager all of a sudden was you know Chris Stapleton's former uh touring manager, right? This was his first one. He the next week you know he pulled up in a 15 passenger van and they were like oh he gets his tour bus uh tomorrow. So watching him turn from kind of these little theaters to now he's his entire tour is selling out. He's continues to extend it. um he's from here.
I mean, he was a hometown, you know, kind of Indiana guy. And he stuck around afterwards and talked to all, you know, all of his friends, I imagine, and his family that were there. And and again, to me, that was a was a perfect example of like there's legends that you don't know you're watching on a on the Vogue stage, quite frankly, that you're going to hear about and see about years to come and be like, I saw them in this, you know, teeny little theater, almost 100-y old theater in Broadripple. That's a really good one. Okay. I'm I'm impressed.
I mean, see, uh I guess I I don't like v This is a problem, but like go to shows in the winter that much. It's like as soon as spring turns. So, I need to keep a better. But like that one, he's they're coming down and playing Jackson County Watermelon Festival in Brownstown. Steven Wilson Jr. and someone else like two huge names coming to the Watermelon Festival in Jackson County.
Yeah. Well, what I also found endearing and I and I hope most artists feel at the Vogue or at any 45 venue is that like you're welcome. There's a um a f a familial feel to it because quite frankly he was so proud to be there. I mean of course like kind of his hometown he had his friends and his family there but there was also just this like you know pride that I felt really like you know I felt excited about that he was just there being being able to play and quite frankly in front of a soldout crowd in front of his friends and family was pretty cool. Pretty cool. And and it's he is everything I keep seeing from him is just the most authentic dude.
Oh yeah. You know like was a laboratory chemist or something scientist and then like walked into his boss's I like listened to the whole story. Walked into his boss's office and was just like talking about he could have like advanced up and was like what are you passionate about? Like all you want to do is write music. Like you should just go do it. And he did it.
He did it. I mean his buddy was his store manager for a while. I kind of talked with him for a little bit before the show and he was like he just keeps writing good music. Like we don't we don't know how to handle it. He just he's just writing writing writing and it's all so good. That like raw raspy gritty voice too.
So So the rock the rind is what they're calling it down in Brownstone. I get it. Yeah. Right. And it's so Thursday night Tracy Bird, Deanna Carter. That's so cool.
Some legends. Justin Moore. Yes. On Friday night. And then Steven Wilson Jr. and Southaw on Saturday night.
So cool. In Jackson County. Also like Yeah. Tracy Bur. You want to line up with Trace and Diana Carter. You made it.
You're doing all right there. It's pretty cool. So, what what's been like the biggest show that you guys have done at uh Rock the Ruins? Yeah. I mean, I mentioned Charlie Crockett earlier. Again, I think we we attempt to create a lineup that kind of meets age, uh, you know, spans age, uh, group, spans racial diversity, gender diversity, but again, country country sells.
So, um, Charlie Crockett sold last year, was a sellout show, was a fantastic show. He put on a great show. Um, you know, I we had Orville Peek last year, another kind of country artist who I think also is a niche. Um, and and brought some great kind of support line up for him. So, both of those kind Mount Joy there two years ago. I feel like I remember people like couldn't get tickets and were outside the park just listening, right?
Yeah. I mean, Mount Joy has grown. I mean, even since um, you know, they started. I think what's true, what 45 is trying to do is to kind of create a portfolio of of venues so that you can grow with an artist. So, let's use Steven Wilson as a perfect example of, you know, all of a sudden he's selling out. You know, the Vogue is 950 people.
Um, he's selling at 950. We at 45 want to be able to say, "Hey, we think we have another venue for you to come sell out." So, you want to be able to stay with an agent and an artist, be able to build and see them through their career. So, I think Mount Joyy's a perfect example of we kind of got to know them really early. We've kind of tried to continue to follow them along and plug them in places and venues that we have. Um, but that's the goal, right?
it is for us to be able to follow artists along in their their artistic journey and and quite frankly the audience is going to want to follow them along too and familiar spaces. Who's who's like job is it to uncover the rising artist? Yeah, we have a talent buying team that is um spans both you know across age groups but quite frankly who's crushing it right now um is a young guy and we he's probably eight months in and he keeps booking these you know our turntable is our smallest venue. Um, so you really again you're looking for these like who's going to sell 200 tickets that I think is going to be able to grow and play at the Vogue and hopefully play at Rock the Ruins and play at bigger venues. Um, and I mean he just keeps he just keeps crushing this guy in sellouts at turntable. His name is Ben King.
He's one of our full-time staff members. Ben. Yeah. So Ben's got an ear for rising stars. We say all the time and even his kind of openers. I think I feel really proud of the ways that he's kind of identifying both local talent um which quite frankly like not a lot of promoters do or at least we don't find a lot of space for.
But when there's a when there is a space for a local talent, he finds somebody, he's got an ear on it, and he's ready to go. And and I think that's really at the end of the day, it's kind of who you put on a stage. And then my job is like what stage are we putting them on? And I kind of think that's a good balance that that we found in that way. That's such a fun that's such a fun job to like what what do you go to school like how do you end up getting in that gig? Yeah.
So I think Ben, you know, I think Ben found his way. He was kind of a part of a tour and was touring with a group for a little while. He um you know grew up in the music scene I would say you know in his 20s in in Denver, Colorado. So was a part of some of the smaller rooms that were actually feeding into Red Rocks. Um so he got to see uh not only the business of how that works. Um also the economics of how that works but also just the ways in which you know you're uncovering hundreds of talent to be able to get to the you know 40 or 50 shows that end up at Red Rocks and so hundreds and hundreds of bands.
Um, yeah. And I think he's just probably learned along the way. There's a there's a money there's a money formula to it, but there's also at the end of the day like how do you pick the quality artists that we think are going to continue to sell tickets. Yeah. And like it's never been easier to, you know, build stardom and like get noticed, but it's also never been as saturated. Yeah.
Yeah. That's like everyone's a Tik Tok country star, right? Well, you think about like even we just talked about Stephen Wilson Jr. You think about him. I think you know your favorite artist didn't start at Ruhof. Nowadays, some did, right?
Like there are some folks that you know that get famous on TikTok and are selling out stadiums. You think about Zack Bryan, you think about all kinds of folks. I think Stephen Wilson's a good example. Right before um I think either we went on sale or in the middle of on sale, he went viral on Tik Tok for one of his covers and I'm not going to remember the name right now, but he went viral and all of a sudden he that sold showed out like that and and then again all of a sudden you're watching his tour both internationally and nationally just sell out show after show. Was it his standby me cover? Stand by cover.
It's phenomenal. It it just hurts. It's almost like a deep cut, but you're like, I love it, but I also need to go cry for a minute. His uh he did another acoustic set with Hardy and put that on YouTube and it's like so good. So good. It does.
It hurts. It hurts a little bit. So yeah, I think there's I think the reality is, you know, there is that is true, but it's not true for every artist. You're not going to find Tik Tok. You're not going to go viral. You're not going to start selling out stadium shows.
And so at 45 anyway, we trying to say you can also start at a really small stage and grow your way up the way that kind of you used to have to do it, right? You used to kind of have to go and play in front of six people before you played in front of a stadium full of full of fans. I think one of my good friends is playing a show at Turntable in August. His name. It's Ian Ilig. The band is Gregorian.
Yes. And I think I'm going to he's looking for sponsors right now and I think it's pretty confirmed that Get Indiana is going to be a partner there and we're going to come in and do a bunch of stuff. I love it. It was such a fun project. Turntable was the old crackers comedy club for folks that aren't familiar with it. you know, again, a legend in the broadle scene.
You know, huge comedians kind of came through that that club. Um, you know, everybody, we joke often people have a Vogue story, they often also have a Cracker Comedy Club story. You know, you saw George Lopez or some of, you know, Sinbad or, you know, Queen Lativa play on that stage, like kind of perform that stage, teeny tiny little space. But when we walked it for the first time, or at least when I started at 45, I kind of said like this, why is this not a venue? Like we, you know, we we own this room, we own the space, like we need to turn this into a venue. And it kind of became this organic creative project between um a few folks on my team.
And it's now, you know, has this kind of a Japanese listening room, like vinyl listening room vibe. We have a beautiful record wall that is um you know, really kind of uh spotlights in a really beautiful way kind of so many of the artists that we're we're following and keeping up with. And then you go to the showroom and again it's just this intimate. You can be right up at the stage. You could be sitting if seated if you'd like. Um but it's it's this space that I think doesn't exist here in Broadripple.
And quite frankly, that kind of 200 to 400 cap room, you don't have many options in the city to kind of see those artists um who are just selling that many tickets and aren't aren't kind of at the big stadiums or in the big spaces. One, I've I've been in there once. I think Patrick had an event there not too long ago. So, I was up there. It's super cool. Very unique.
I think that there are other, you know, those 200 to what's the what's the capacity there? It's 200 seat in. We can go up to 400 GA. Yeah. And so, it's like it you can bring, you know, 200 people in there and it doesn't feel empty. Yes.
Right. It's like, oh, this is so even if you're a growing artist, you know, like I think at the last show Ian played the hi-fi and there was like 200 and some change people there and you know that's a pretty like traditional style venue so you got to get people moving towards the front a little bit there but in turn table I feel like it is like broken up a little bit there and it's just such an interesting space that that 200 was going to feel really full there. We didn't really structurally change much in the room so if you walked in you'd still see the risers where they kind of had tables before for comedy shows. We wanted to keep that and that is still true and real for um kind of folks who want a premium experience, a table and a chair to sit at. But what's nice about that is then you can kind of close those down and you have just the dance floor, just the showroom floor. That again, even with 150 people, which is pretty small crowd for that kind of uh size, but it still feels full and it still feels like you're you're more important for us is that the artist is having just as great of experience as the guests and the ticket buyers because again, we want them to come back.
We want them to kind of continue to feel like, hey, you're you're at the right spot in your career and and hopefully you're with the right, you know, promoter like us. Um, so it feels full. It's a great room. Yeah. So far people have have really enjoyed it and receiving it really well. And what like stands out for you all?
Like how do you just as much book someone as like pitch them to come and play at the Vogue or pitch them to play at turntable? Yeah. There's a lot of artists right now who want to play for independent promoters, right? Like I think there's a lot of artists who want to be and have access to and be a little closer to their fans. When you say independent promoters, is that like a competitor? Like so you guys are kind of like a competitor like Live Nation, that type of thing?
Wow. Okay. Oh, wait. That would This is interesting. It is. So, so locally owned independent promoters, the two here in Indianapolis, of course, are at 45 at MKB, good friends of ours.
Um, and then yeah, you have kind of the national or global kind of promoters like Live Nation, like AEG. Some of those folks who are doing and have massive kind of corporations and massive machines that are doing really, really great uh providing really great entertainment and shows for for folks quite frankly around the globe. What we've said is, hey, we're we're independently owned. We don't, you know, uh we're locally owned. We want to make sure that we're kind of um investing in in artists in in the ways that we do. We don't have a model where we're going to go scale to and buy stadiums and and but we you know, how do we kind of make sure that those smaller smaller venues and smaller artists kind of uh continue to live and exist and thrive in this city.
And so um so yeah, there's a lot of artists who want to play for independent promoters and especially when they're early in their career. And yeah, it might not be like, you know, going and getting the biggest amphitheaters in the state, but being creative and creating these like from nothing. Yes. Like that's what's so cool. And if I know anything about like the the original ownership group of of the Vogue, right? Like creating something from nothing is kind of their specialty.
Exactly right. Uh so as we talked through like you you guys have done Rock the Ruins, but then there's this big announcement coming up for what's going to happen in Broad Park. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are creating again something from nothing.
Yes. I think that's exactly right. I think the theme for us was not just creating something from nothing but also creating something that I think people want, especially in the city of Indianapolis. Right. Like I um am not from here originally, but this is home. I love this city.
I am um so committed to making sure that people who are here have you know at least the ways that I can um have a great quality of life. Welcome. I'm from Fort Worth, Texas originally. Oh yeah. How long have you been in India? So I went to college here years ago.
Um and did a short stint in grad school in Denver, Colorado and Chicago and then got back here about five years. So total about 15 years I've been here. Um yeah. So it's home now though, right? Like you look up all of a sudden and you have a you know a dog and a house and you're this is this is home. And quite frankly, this is the city that I love and and there's there's no plans to kind of change or move.
Again, what that means though is then how am I in the ways that I can continue to make sure that like, you know, we're not passed over by big bands or big tours. And because quite frankly, I think this city um is willing to buy tickets. I think they're ready for live entertainment in a ways that I think a lot of other cities at least in the Midwest are kind of in these spaces uh are struggling. And I believe that Indianapolis is. So, what we're trying to do is kind of say not only is is this um you know a demonstration of our partnership with Indie Parks, but how are we continuing to help them meet their mission of there's multiple uses of parks, right? How are we using this park in these beautiful spaces in ways just beyond kind of uh leisure if you will.
Um and also I think there's a world where you know there's Broadripple is used to be kind of the music hub, the live music hub. This was kind of the cornerstone. so many spaces like the patio um like Monkeykey's Tail again like the Vogue has just been here for so long that how do we bring live music back? I think there's a concerted effort to do that. What's the patio? The patio was a legendary um music venue that was actually where what now is 317 barbecue.
So it also was one that had tons of legends that came through and has been you know historic uh in the Broadripple space. Look it up. It's amazing the patio in Broadle. We'll have to check it out. um was around just as long and and uh so how are we actually kind of bringing back some of that live music and quite frankly again where we found our niche and we've found artists that want to play and guests that want to come is an outside space outdoor space and so um brought up a park in their master plan you know there is a event venue um and so we're just testing it out and seeing what that looks like as a local resident that is very good for the future of my neighborhood I feel good about that we like that we like a venue in the backyard you know we we committed to to Indie parks is to at least to test it and try it and more specifically to kind of get neighborhood feedback. So, if they choose um to kind of uh continue down that path of what does it look like to be able to have live music there um that they know and we've been able to kind of help them in their community engagement.
If you need someone to go out and knock doors in the neighborhood to get people promoted. Oh, I am I am pumped about this. Absolutely. So, so who's coming? What can we expect? What is that going to look like?
Yeah. So, at Rock the Ruins right now, we have six shows announced that we're really excited about. Um, so the wall flowers, kind of a throwback, um, for folks that may remember that. I'm really excited about St. Paul and the Broken Bones that's happening in July. Um, you know, he is another one that I think has kind of caught wind.
I think he's been around for a long time. Just has such a unique voice. But I think his Tiny Desk uh, you know, concert that just kind of released um, caught a lot of people's attention in a way that if you hadn't heard him before, you're like kind of paying attention now to who who is he and what is what is what's he where's he going next? So, I'm excited about that. The Frey is another um, kind of throwback. Yeah.
that we're excited about. That's nostalgia right there. I think we'll do really well. Um yeah, and then bringing back some that we've had in the past. So Mo is another kind of band that we're excited about at at Holiday Park. Broadle Park will be one weekend this year.
And so we're really excited about that. That's in August. Um we're going to do country. We'll do driveby truckers and deer tick on one night. So a double headliner um that we're really excited about. And then um the second night is Semisonic and Toten Sprockets.
So again, another kind of early 2000s um a bit of a throwback, but both genres we think will do really well here in Broad Park. I was going to say that's the weekend of August 8th and August 9th. I just like looked it up. So one weekend, one one weekend and one weekend only. That's right. Uh I got I'm like getting to my calendar right now to make sure I have this like we'll figure Yes, we'll make sure it's on your calendar.
Oh, perfect. Okay. Uh yeah, August 8th, Friday, August 8th, Saturday, August 9th. Broad Park. How many like what's the size of these shows? Yep.
So, we at Holiday Park, we um cap the the space at 2500. We hope to have somewhat of a similar turnout at Broadable Park for both nights. I think it might be a little um you know, a little closer to 2,000. What I think and what I hope happens is that that that weekend really also activates the village itself. So, one of the things we believe at 45 is that live music again um can be an economic catalyst for not just the folks that we're employing and the people who are kind of coming through, but um but also for the kind of businesses and local businesses around us. So, what we're kind of saying is walk, bike, and ride to Broadripple Park.
Um, and more importantly, walk through the village, have dinner in the village, have an after, you know, an aftercon drink. Let's make sure that we're kind of activating so many of these local and small businesses that um, you know, bringing this neighborhood back to life in a way that I think is really important. Jump on the moan on, come on over to a show, walk back and have a drink or or a dessert. Um, yeah, and just and really kind of activate this village in a way that I think people uh people are looking forward to and hopefully kind of continue to do as we're kind of bringing this back to life. Well, if there are any Broadripple bars, restaurants that listen to the podcast that want to host the unofficial official pregame party, let's do it. Nate and the crew are in.
I'll go. We'll find a place. We'll blow it up. It'll be super fun. And then we'll walk over to That would be so fun. Like I I do think uh I just had Hasbro on.
I have Clayton Anderson coming on to talk about what he's putting in up here. And it's like there is a lot of energy and life coming back towards Broadripple. and he's like, "We have to continue to just chip away, hammer away, like and it's going to I mean, it's it's going to be there." And this is built to be a hub of arts and culture throughout throughout the city of Indianapolis. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Roots Reality Co. , the absolute best real estate team here in central Indiana.
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co. Let's get back into it. Even the few examples you just gave of how this works and will work is if we're collaborating together, right? If we're not just kind of sitting in our corners and saying, "Make sure that my slice or my corner of Broadpool is going to do really well." I think the reality is we kind of need each other in broader pull to continue to bring it back. um continue to support each other.
And so how are we amplifying to your point uh other giving voice to other like local businesses, local folks who are kind of either starting something new or um yeah who've been around a long time and in the grind and have seen this village change and through its ups and downs. And so how are we doing that together as opposed to kind of in this our isolated corners? Um yeah, there's a lot of to your point a lot of really cool stuff happening around. Yeah. And I mean I I will hammer in the fact of like bringing people back cuz it's really sad when you drive through at like 10 p. m.
on a Saturday night and no one's here. It's like what the like I remember I remember when it used to be like lines a block down the street to get into a piano bar or get into Brothers like any like I remember being a 22-year-old kid and like spend being out here way too late and it was awesome. Yeah. We you know there's there's a group of of local bar owners, local restaurants who have continued to kind of gather monthly. We do this monthly to just kind of make sure we're all up to date, have the same information. And I think that's going to pay off.
I was here on Friday night. This past Friday night was one of the first warm uh warm evenings and it was lively. Like it was it felt like it was alive over on the Monan kind of live music next to Plumps. Like there, you know, there are people out and walking around and so that's my hope is that that just sustains and continues and even bleeds itself a little bit farther into the village. And I think, you know, live music and and again, um, gathering people in this way, especially in the summer when you're kind of looking for something to do, my hope is that that continues for for the village and ultimately it'll be good for everybody. Is uh, is there something you see Broadle missing?
Like what do we need? Yeah. If we could just like snap our fingers and create it, you know, I'm really excited about the things that are coming because what I would have said maybe even months ago is something like a country bar, right? The Ripple Rodeo is so good. Like I I haven't heard the official name yet. Clay Anderson's Ripple Rodeo.
Is it called Rippled Road? Love it. Yeah. Like again, I've like said it a lot of times like once I continue to grow and I get to a spot I want to open the who's your honky tonk. Love it. Yes.
Like and it's like then I see in my backyard like here it is. I was like Clayton dude you're living my dream right now. Come on. Yeah. So we I think that's something that again you're just you're just kind of building off you know so many of the kind of cornerstones that we already have. Like the Vogues already hears live music.
I just mentioned how well country does. Like how are we kind of working together to make sure that both are working well? I would argue that, you know, um, Thieves is is moving into the the kind of Starbucks on the corner. And so that cocktail bar that right now is in a teeny little spot next to the sushi bar. Um, you know, Kristen's opening a bigger space that's going to be coffee during the day and cocktails at night. I think a bigger space and craft cocktails I think is missing in Broadripple.
And I think that vibe will kind of bring people here, will allow you to kind of like sit, let me have a conversation in a drink as opposed to just here to kind of late night um kind of party. And I think that's missing. And I'm I'm really excited for what she's doing. You know, that's going to open in the next couple months and I think just in time for summer to to have a pre-drink and kind of a slow slow evening. The buildout is what is that guy's name? He was like on Good Bones or HGTV or something like Oh, I don't I can't think of his name at the moment.
Not MJ. It's not MJ. I know MJ. It's the other There's another guy who's like So, it's like going to be a luxury buildout. It's going to be really really cool. Have you seen or do you know any intel of what's going in on the corner?
Like those three new maybe two new. So, cupcake place and then between the cupcake place and the shop. I've heard a few things. I don't know. Just rumblings. All right.
We're not We're not gonna say both. My hope would be that all of that's true, right? But, you know, I I think respecting and knowing who and how um is going to be able to make things happen, I think, is just as important as it actually happens. So, we'll see that. Will thieves move out of that space? I'm not for sure.
My understanding is yes. This will just kind of be a bit of a relocation extension. Someone can come in and get a start, right? Like there's it's cool space. I mean, she's like designed it so well. It's like dark and kind of like moody.
It's a little small. It has a patio. We don't have a lot of patios. My first internship was there back when it was the Triton Tap. It was like a so I was an intern for them, but I was unpaid intern for like for the intern or for the uh the brewery, but then I bartended at night to like so I was like beerended. It was awesome.
It's a very very intimate space. To answer your question like what are we missing? think anywhere we can find familyfriendly outdoor seating and gathering we're going to do well right like I just think you know there's um you know especially the main kind of strip there's a lot of late night there's a lot of concrete like how who and how are we getting creative I love seeing Kilroyy's patio open up like how are we getting creative on just seating and outdoor gathering because I do think that's what people want especially kind of folks who have kids or all ages is you don't just you know you want to be able to go and have an experience you don't just want to kind of pop in and out of indoor spaces yeah and I'm I'm hoping that more places like Cholita and Fernand Fernando Fernando like places that are like I think Massa and Bottle Works District has done a really good job of like locallyowned or like like regionally owned concepts coming in and I think that's really cool.
Yeah. I mean you think about Broadpool that's actually kind of all we are right I mean there's a handful that are probably like bigger chains and even that you know is maybe even niche chains but you just named a few and I think we can keep going on on just the ways in which you know we want to kind of return to that. How are we kind of being who are we and how are we actually like investing in our own city and our own neighborhood and how are we actually contributing to the investment of our own city. Craig Craig Hughes is a friend of the pod. Craig, we we need a 1933 in Broad. Please, please.
I probably have a few of those that would would give you I have a few real options. Yeah, exactly. We know people. We can make that happen. That's right. Um Okay.
Well, so we have one weekend at Broad Park this summer. We have an amazing lineup for Rock the Ruins. Obviously, the Vogue turntable all ripping. Are there is there any other venues that we're missing there? There's not. But one thing I would highlight is um 45 is excited to partner with Indie Pride this year.
And so we're helping them kind of both produce and execute their two-day music festival. So they're growing their kind of festival footprint downtown. You know, have have held a leadership role in Indie Pride in the past and was excited to step in and wear a different hat to support them this summer. Um and so yeah, just highlight and would shout out kind of Indie Pride and they're doing a two-day festival with a killer lineup. It looks and feels a lot like a bigger city uh pride. Who do we have in there?
So, we have Natasha Bettingfield on Saturday. Everybody loves a little uh Natasha and that's unwritten, right? Staring at the blank page for you. Open up. There we go. That's going to be fire.
Come on. So, that's really exciting. Right after the parade, you'll be this year they're returning to American Legion Mall, which is, you know, they're celebrating their 30th year as a as an organization. Um, and so they'll do a celebration at the Circle and then a two-day music festival. And then on Sunday, we'll do Tan and Big Wild and a couple other kind of artists that we're really excited about. Um, so yeah, just a shout out to Indie Pride and I think their work is more important now than ever before, especially in the state.
Um, and continues to kind of grow and I'm excited to watch them uh grow this year and and of course kind of play the role that we can in supporting that growth. So nice. Yeah. And and then so you have that festival then you also do I made rock and roll. We do. Is that also at the American Legion Mall?
It was last last summer was at the American Legion Mall. That was Gary Clark Jr. We had Janelle Monae. It was a killer festival. A beautiful, beautiful space, beautiful day. This year we're kind of extending that.
Uh so we do that in partnership with Gang Gang. Um they're kind of the artistic and creative direction. Uh and we have been a festival partner for them and and more specifically kind of the ways in which how are they pairing kind of the story and the truth of of where of genre of rock and roll and how kind of its roots and origins come from America or African-American artists um throughout the year. And so really kind of what are the shows that we're doing this year indoors and outdoors that we can kind of continue to tell the story of I made rock and roll. So, we're really sp expanding that that kind of storytelling both regionally and I would say in the state and then certainly coming back in a bigger and better way in 26, the summer of 26 with the festival. Oh boy.
Be exciting. Well, if there's ever space for the Who's Your Honky Tonk Country Festival? Oh, I think there may be some synergies there. A two day. Like a a one night Saturday. Saturday from like uh let's say like 200 p.
m. to 9:00 p. m. somewhere. 10:00 p. m.
That would be lit. I would I would go crazy and I would promote the heck out of that and we could sell some tickets. I love it. Well, the my Texan heart is uh is with you in that. So yeah. Um okay.
Well, I did want to talk through um just a few of like general music in Indiana, right? So we obviously we know your guys' venues, turntable, uh the Vogue, all the outdoor stuff. But as you are I mean obviously you're a concert consumer. You're a live music consumer. What are uh some of your favorite spots around the state to hit up? And are there any spots that should be on people's bucket list that that might not be?
Yeah, I mean I would continue to urge folks and encourage folks especially kind of on the southeast side to keep an eye on MKB. So you're you're looking at maybe the last year of Hi-Fi Annex which is an outdoor um kind of outdoor venue, 1200 cap last year that well they're moving indoors. So they're building uh HiFi Annex and you know a couple years that'll that'll actually be indoors. So it'll be the same size kind of space but it'll go indoors. you know, they're good friends of ours, um, you know, friendly competitors, but I would say again in the business of keeping making sure that Indiana folks are doing well, I'm excited to kind of watch that that grow and evolve. Kind of makes me sad that it's going to go indoors cuz that's a really good feelings around it.
That's a really good venue. There's some feelings around it for sure. Um, yeah. So, I think you know, my indie and and and you know, and friendly competitor heart would just say kind of keep an eye for folks on on what they're doing. I think they're doing some really cool stuff. Yeah.
I mean, I think you're seeing a lot of like interesting outdoor amphitheaters pop up. So the, you know, Fischers, um, you a theater, I think, is is continuing to roll out a really good like lineup this summer and that feels really exciting and not far in proximity to us. Really cool stuff happening in Brown County. I think the Brown County Event Center is doing really cool things, although indoor, you know, and they're trying to kind of revive again a historic kind of space that's been been around a long time. I just saw Brown County is bringing like zezy top it like they're doing some cool stuff. That's so cool.
It's such a cool um you know that town itself draws you know so many folks from around the state that I think you know folks who are looking for live music um it's another good spot. Uh Brown County Playhouse is another one when I'm thinking about Brown County right now. They're a small kind of independent um they're actually nonprofit and they do live music and other events and so um a seated theater that we've gotten to know them really well um just as another kind of local small uh venue operator and so so paying attention to them I think feels really good if you're going south. Um, yeah. And then I think Fischers is doing really cool things. I think, um, you know, we're excited to kind of watch some of the stuff happen in the the kind of doughnut counties.
Um, and kind of continue to see Have you been to uh Hendricks County Live? Yeah, Hendricks Live is really beautiful, beautiful space in Planefield. Um, they've become good friends of ours as well. I think they're doing really cool things. They're a seated theater. So, it's they bring a different kind of genre, a different kind of artist.
Uh, but their lineup has done really well. think they're a really interesting model on how the city the role of a city and kind of as a community cornerstone that a theater can be for the arts and culture. Um they have a really interesting story of kind of how they were funded and built and so they're kind of fun to follow along and if you you get to go there you'll just be in awe of the space. Um I think it's a beautiful beautiful space itself which doesn't you don't see often. the seated theater. Like I I went and toured Clouse.
Yeah. At Butler. Like and they get some insane like comedians and and just performances that come through there and it's like it's right in our backyard and I like never even thought of it. Like I was like, "Oh, it's just like a theater at Butler." No, they're a legit like they're bringing in really really cool artist. Yeah.
Yeah. there. They have a team that has worked really hard at kind of figuring out how do we do it on our own and also in a way that again is kind of bringing artists, comedians, you know, events generally that like people in the city and quite frankly folks in that neighborhood really want to hear and see. Um, and they've done a really good job over the years in doing that. So, it's also a beautiful space. Yes.
Like, uh, well, I know that Ashley uh, and Brit like are on their crime junkies tour and it's like that that kind of thing too comes through like the live podcast performance comes through clues which is which is crazy. like I don't know a decade ago it was like if you weren't a you know musician or maybe a standup comic you didn't have a stage you probably didn't have a stage now it's like recording live podcast and come on you could do it you could do it at turntable we could do we could do one at turntable we did um it was interesting it's been really fun to play around with that at turntable but also at at the Vogue last year during all-star weekend we did the WO podcast for ESPN live so it was that was amazing um and so yeah we're not on that level yet Grant Hill you know was sitting on stage with us, you know, with um with Tyrese Hallebertton. And it was it was that was a cool was it was good sparked your imagination of like what could be like how do you how can you use these spaces um to kind of continue to amplify and to bring people together in an interesting way.
We had a we did a uh the documentary of Little Richard um last year for Ide the director come in and did kind of a panel afterwards. We watched the film in the in the venue and then we kind of had a a question and answer with the director of of the Little Richard documentary and that was well attended and and excited. people just wanted to again where are you learning what are you listening to what are you thinking about what kind of conversations are you having it doesn't just have to be live music and I think that's really exciting to think about the opportunities I mean we we land like one of the the big three Indiana podcast we'll come do it at live like Caitlyn Clark if you're listening and you want to do the bod we'll come do it it's WNBA allstar this year let's do it I was like Caitlyn Clark Payton Manning or Pat McAfee either three of those want to come and do a pod we'll we'll do a live recording it be sick I love it.
Well, you're talking about all these, you know, new venues from uh Hendricks County down to Brown County up to Fisers. If you could put a venue anywhere in the state of Indiana, where would you put it? Broaderable Park. Like a full permanent venue, it would be so sick. Yeah. I mean, I I say that, you know, because I think I think there's, you know, we have we are highly and deeply invested in Broad Park for I mean, in Broadbable 45 is not going anywhere.
The Vogue is not going anywhere. I mean, again, I spoke earlier about just the ways in which how do you bring live music back to this neighborhood? And quite frankly, I think um a live music venue that can also be extended to kind of just there's mutual and and kind of benefits for indie parks and quite frankly the entire community. It's an athletic field, right? It's where it's going. It could be it could be the master plan shows it there right now.
We're eager to watch that evolve and who kind of wants to step in and how does that look like? I think we're following along really, you know, carefully. But it could be your, you know, your athletic field. It could be where you have fundraisers. It could be where you put your farmers market. could be just the endless possibilities of having a space like that that could be flexible and you know have world-class talent um you know for ticketed events is is just would be a dream right there on the river in the master it is really cool back there in the master plan is it uh an outdoor like amphitheater it is yeah it is so there's a permanent venue in the master plan um they they went through quite a you know intense community engagement uh process um to make sure that kind of it both met the needs and also kind of addressed some concerns and I think you there there's um an interest to kind of revisit that plan and see if it still makes sense which is partly why we're kind of helping pilot a couple shows um shows there right now.
My feeling generally or you know maybe even a broader theme and less specific is is I feel really strongly about having an outdoor option for families who want to bring their entire family to a show um and don't have to drive 20 30 minutes don't have to find you know parking and and walk for ages don't have to um you know fight big crowds but how are you actually accessing um worldclass talent and and listening to worldclass musicians like a Stephen Wilson Jr. like an El King or like a Charlie Crockett or Norville Peek without having to leave your backyard, right? Like I mean we how do we keep the folks in the city core and keep them spending their money here and and quite frankly continue to make us as a city um you know a destination spot and a spot for tours that want to want to stop through on the on their way across the country. So when you guys do your show, how are you going to set up like where's the stage going to be?
Do you know? So we'll share more um as we get closer too. It's going to look a little different than the master plan partly because we want to respect and kind of preserve as much as we can. We're doing a temporary structure, right? So, anything permanent would require, you know, quite a bit more um infrastructure investment uh obviously to make sure that semis get through there that we can kind of without disrupting the park and kind of moving too many things around. So, we'll, you know, right now we're um thinking about the stage kind of on the northeast corner um of the athletic field.
So, uh kind of there the sound would shoot kind of opposite of the neighborhood back out towards the northeast corner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So then the So the river would be your back.
The river if I'm if I'm watching the show, the river's to my back. That's right. For this year, that's probably good for I mean even a little bit of rain that field will uh get torn up. Does a guy went out and ran, you know, the trail this morning and you know, but sometimes just roll the dice, you know, real fingers crossed approach. Yeah, there's there's a cool history there, right? That's the the pool.
That's that that field is where the pool is. And there's probably still remnants underneath. There is. You can see it. Yeah. Yeah.
So, there's quite a bit of things underground that that we're curious about, but certainly didn't want to kind of do one weekend and have a little bit of rain and destroy the whole field. And so, we're trying to preserve and be thoughtful about that in the ways that we can. Yeah. Well, I'm like looking at the I would encourage anyone out there listening to go look at the master plan. I have it kind of pulled up here and it's like this is crazy. It's cool.
It like I think that there's a ton of cool stuff that could uh come to life in in the neighborhood. So, I love that. I think that is that would be an really really cool spot to have a permanent venue and help continue to bring live music to Broadripple. Uh I think I have a few more fun questions and then I have my my usual three lightning rounds. So what's your dream artist to host at the Vogue? My younger self is going to say Patty Griffin who's uh she's a folk indie artist who I grew up listening to um in Texas.
She lives in Austin now. Um she is like my musical muse um in some ways. But yeah, I think right now I'm listening to a lot of country, too. Um, and so how are we thinking about, you know, what are those big rising stars? You know, I I I loved Orville Peek last year. I think his following and the people he brought out and sold a show out was was incredible.
And I would love to have him back in a smaller and more intimate space. He brought a couple um artists along that uh on his tour that was really excited um to hear. Duran Jones is was one who's kind of a um soul a black uh indie artist um that loved him. And I think that, you know, that kind of duo on stage would be amazing just uh at least from a representative perspective. How how do we get uh Chapel Ran at uh rock the Are we too late on that one? You're a little too late.
I like where would she play? She came to India. Where would she play now? I'm speechless because I actually don't know that any bear could accommodate her. I mean, she is somebody who is a phenomenon that I can't help but but follow. So like bigger than Ruof at this point.
Yes. I mean, yes. So, she played we we sent a couple folks to Austin City Limits um this past summer just to kind of do a little uh research and development for our outdoor space. Anyway, you know, Austin limits huge 300,000 people a day, you know, six stage six stages. Somebody should go just go Google or Tik Tok her uh her set at Austin City Limits because nobody was watching any other stage. It was a sea of pink.
I think it was 180,000 people watching her. Um, and you certainly couldn't hear her when you were at the back, but you were you were It was It was a phenomenon that I've never seen before. Fun fun story. We actually um so I mentioned I' I'd done Indie Pride in the past. We had kind of caught wind of Chapel Ron two years ago. We thought, well, let's let's try to bring her like she seems like she's going to get pretty big.
Pink Pony Club. We were like, this is weird, but it's a great song. This was years ago, right? Um we missed out because she had already booked Louisville Pride. She was a similar one that um so there's a radius clause, right? She couldn't she couldn't she couldn't play within a certain radius within a time frame.
Well, ours is the weekend before. Long story short, she kind of goes viral a little bit. Louisville Pride sells out number one. Um I have quite a few friends that go and she's, you know, this is after she's just played in, you know, maybe even La Palooa, which she was of course playing in front of 200,000 people there, too. She's playing on this teeny tiny stage like, you know, smaller than when we pub rock the ruins even maybe two two sizes down. If you look behind the the video that I see is um Louisville Pride is sold out number one and the bridges have been shut down above where they kind of they they have the festival on the waterfront.
The bridges are shut down because people are there. They've they've closed the bridges down for for people to like have a free show. Neon lights, fireworks, like just the people who came to that didn't buy a ticket to watch Chapel Ran last summer were probably 50,000 people for Louisville Pride. So like she's just this phenomenon that if you if you aren't paying attention to travel like you know you missed it or now is the time. I love I love that you keep saying phenomenon. It's like she's a phenomenon.
That was a pull from my bag right there. I like it. I like it. Yeah. Okay. That's a fun one.
And it's like kind of like too uh first one to move, right? It's like dang that could have been us. It could have been us. It's interesting. Yeah. I mean my other my others I I loved Gary Clark Jr.
I made rock and roll last year. I mean I was a fan before. I'm even more of a fan now. He's such a true artist. He's um you know, he brought his family like so so I think it'd be so fun to see someone like Gary Clark Jr. who still um he was playing in these huge tours, but you know, watch him at the at the Vogue would be so fun.
Um and and just to be able feels like such, you know, family now that that it would be fun to watch him back in that space. What artist loves Indiana that you wouldn't expect? We have quite a few tours that we've mentioned a couple that have kind of continued to come back both through our venues or just generally. I mean, I think generally for tours, Indianapolis is the is the spot. You know, I think what I would feel is if if we lose a show, they're going to Cincinnati or Louisville, right? And and quite frankly, when I talk about the ecosystem or the landscape of of venues, what's good for all of us is good for, you know, what's good for a few of us is good for all of us.
In other words, as a city, kind of a portfolio of venues that you could play at 2500 all the way up to 10,000 up to 25,000. That's good, right? Because then tours aren't going to pass us by, right? They're not going to be able to say, "Oh, we can skip and go to Louisville or Cincinnati." You have a room here you could play. There's just this like, you know, there's a pattern to the business of music, which is that like as tours continue to grow, you want them to keep coming back.
And as a city, we want them to keep coming back. What would the five steps of, let's say, a five-year musician keeps growing every year? What would the five steps of Mount Joy as an example, right? So, years ago, Mount Joy would have played, you could even use Milly Strings because they just uh we just did a throwback of maybe five years ago. It wasn't that long ago that he sold out at the at the Vogue. So you you you think about where Billy Strings would have been playing before the Vogue.
He opened that's what it was. He was opening for somebody at the Vogue 5 years ago as an opener. So he would have gone to a small venue like a turntable sold that out which is the next year to let's call it two 400k. Yeah. Um you go the next year to go up to 950 for us if we're using the portfolio of of 45. You then go to Rock the Ruins.
After that you might go to Everweise, right? Because it's just you just keep stairstepping up. After Everwise, you might go to Fischers. it's a little bit bigger and then you'd end up at Ruhof. So there is this end Oil and then you Lucas Oil you end up at Yeah. Gamebridge I mean any of these huge kind of stadiums.
So the idea that we it's good for us as a city to have a thriving venue ecosystem um is good for Live Nation but it's also good for all of our you know small independent promoters because artists are going to want to come back because they have a room to play in. It's familiar space. They know that Indianapolis you know and Hooers are going to buy tickets. Um is there an is there a space that we're missing like in that ladder? Yeah, I mean quite frankly like that kind of you know Hi-Fi Annex I mentioned is about 1,200 outdoor and we at Rock the Ruins are about 200. Um that is a niche right now.
If those two go away um we don't have a room indoors I mean outdoors uh for that size. So Everwise, you know goes up to about 66 6,000 um but they don't scale down in that way. The economics just don't make a lot of sense. So how do you how are we kind of continuing that's part of our investment of like how are we saying 1500 to 3 4,000 cap? We have to solve for that as a city and I think that that's something that 45 is willing to take on. Everweise is a actually really spectacular venue.
Beautiful. Three years ago now I saw Zack Bryan for 35 bucks. Amazing. And it was sold out and it was like I bought the tickets and he blew up and it was like my ears were ringing cuz everyone knew the words and it was like shoulderto-shoulder sardi and I was like that was actually my favorite concert ever. I've had great times at all Vogue and I've had I've seen him. It's it's an amazing show.
It's an amazing and I so I actually went out and saw so I started at that one. Okay. And then I went to Witchaw and saw him and then I went to Chicago. So bigger bigger bigger. The favorite one is still the first one because it was so small and he and now he's coming to Notre Dame. He's Yeah.
I mean that's a huge stadium. Like can you you can't get bigger than that quite frankly. No. I think that might be in Indiana like the largest. Uh I don't know. I don't know if we say what they sell for concerts at uh Lucas Oil is not the same of what they'll sell for that.
I think yeah like Gar Brooks played up there and it was huge. That's where I'm from like up in that area. So all my hometown friends are so excited for that. Well, you mentioned Gar Brooks, too. Now I'm now I'm rethinking all my answers cuz he would be somebody I'd bring to the vogue for sure. Could you imagine a small venue Brooks?
Can we have a Trisha Yearwood like day just like one like one song of a duet at the Vogue? It'd be so good. Uh I love it. Okay, we have three questions left. The first one's our younger years segment. This is brought to you by our friends at Or Fellowship.
They're a great organization here in Indiana helping develop young business leaders across the state. Jenny, what advice would you give to your 22-year-old self? It will pay off on how you treat people. The ways in which I've attempted to kind of center relationships and people um has been really both challenging and also really rewarding. And so, I would say like 22-year-old self, like be kind. Um you don't have to always be nice, but you can always be kind and and how you treat people really matters and it'll pay off in the end.
That's spectacular advice. Next, we're speaking to the world. What's something the world needs to know about Indiana? we have good people who will take care of um each other. And you're not from here, right? You're from Fort Worth.
No, I'm from Texas. Spent time in uh Colorado in Chicago. And I would say, you know, there's a reason I came back. Um and quite frankly, it's for the people, committed, loyal, and quite frankly, like, you know, the most hospitable people that I have ever met and and worked with. And so, we have good people and and good live music. Who's your Who's your by choice?
By choice. Who's your by choice? That's the Those are my choice. I I love the any type of time I get a guest who's been around and you know but chooses to be here because when we say I'm a lifelong hooers when I say the people here are so special they're like you've never left you don't know anything but you have left you've been out you know what the world looks like I have yeah I would say that I I played I ended up here I played softball at UPY and so I don't I don't know right yes I don't know that it was by choice you know my 19 20-year-old self then but it took a year and and then you you There's just no leaving. I left for a little while and then of course there was a pull back to say this is this is home. This is where I'm going to build home.
Next, help us uncover something new about the state. What is a hidden gem in Indiana? Yeah, I'm going to say turntable. We're we're less than, you know, I think we're certainly less than a year. We're maybe eight months old now. Um, you know, we're we're intentionally a bit of a speak easy music venue.
We're not kind of there is no signage. You won't see it from the street. Um, the idea is that it's supposed to be a little hidden. It's supposed to be a little exclusive. It's supposed to feel very intimate. Um, and when you walk in, you're going to feel like you are in a different uh city, a different state, a different world.
And that's the intent. And my hope is that you find your you either listen to your favorite artists there. You you sought them out or you hear them for the first time there. And and and my belief is that um that could happen at turntable for sure. At turntable, keep an eye out. We're going to be there.
So my intro and outro music are from Gregorian who are playing a show at Turntable later this summer/fall. So be there. That's it'll be fun. We're going to have we're going to have a great time. Final question for you. Share the love.
This is how we find maybe new guests or people this that we need to know about in Indiana. Who is a Hoosier we need to keep on our radar? Someone who's doing big things? Kind of the entire Indie Pride team. not only is now an important kind of time to be doing the work they're doing for LGBTQ Hoosiers, but I also just think, you know, this is histo a historic organization that's had, you know, volunteers um kind of lead and bring together folks to kind of create joy every summer for folks uh for this entire city and quite frankly the entire state. And so just continue to shout them out and pay attention um to what they're doing and how they're growing and um support them in the ways that you can.
Amazing. Great call out. uh thank you for coming in and and catching us up to speed on all the amazing live music initiatives that are happening across the state from you know the shows you're hosting at turntable the vogue rock the ruins or what are we calling the broadle broad park series broadle park series one weekend and one weekend only August 8th August 9th be there park in the neighborhood if there is a local bar restaurant that wants to host the unofficial official pregame party I'm in we'll make it something that's super super Uh, thank you for the work you're doing. I mean, I always love coming out to your shows. I love seeing all the work that you guys are doing. It it is very impactful.
It takes a while. It's a slow build, but the work that you're doing is super impactful of bringing arts, culture, music to Broadripple and Indiana as a whole. So, from one Hoosier to another, thank you. And, uh, I'm excited. We'll check in after the summer concert and get the recap and and obviously by that point the parks department will be like, "We're all in. Live venue.
Let's build this thing. Let's go." Yes, I appreciate you. Thanks for stopping by. Yeah, thanks for having me. Thank you for listening to this episode of Get In.
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