Glover’s on Its Founding, Ice Cream-Making, and 100 Years in Business

I think he's restocked four times already. Things that you wouldn't even imagine. They need ice cream At the end of the day. People get excited and happy with ice cream. Yeah, ice cream. Carrying more, more heartbreaks than a, than a heart surgeon. We all like Peppermint Candy, so we thought there needs to be a Christmas all year round.

Does someone that isn't from your area, do you guys notice this change of like the American grocery system being different?

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Check it out and learn something new about the Hoosier State@getindiana.com. And don't forget to subscribe to our weekly newsletter right there at the top. Glover's Ice Cream was founded in 1925 in Frankfort, Indiana when Foster Glover began selling handcrafted ice cream sandwiches aboard the passenger trains coming into the city.

Over a century later, it has become one of Indiana's last independent ice cream companies, deeply rooted in community and committed to quality and tradition. Today I'm joined by a portion of the ownership group, Shan Sheridan, David Meek, Tony Reyes. There are two more owners, not present, which are Tony Del Re, and Juan.

We're gonna be talking about the legacy of this hundred year old ice cream business in Clinton County. We're gonna learn about what's on the docket for 2026 and beyond. This is going to be a very sweet episode. Gentlemen, welcome to the show. Thanks for having us. Thanks you guys. Uh, this story starts 100 years ago, which first off, I don't know who invented ice cream or when ice cream was invented, but like 1925 seems like a long time for like freezer goods.

That's pretty crazy to me. I didn't like when was the freezer invented anyway, around that time. Around that time, yeah. Wow. So not long after the freezer gets invented, someone decides to make ice cream, which is pretty cool. So this starts with Foster Glover in 1925 in Clinton County, uh, the county seat of Frankfort.

Correct. Alright. Who, who is the historian on staff here? Well, Shan, is that you? I guess it's me. Uh, yeah. Foster Glover actually moved into Frankfort area. Uh, they were over in the Crawfordsville area there for a while. When they started. Actually, foster was more of a soda jerk, really got involved in the, um, just making money as a teenager, just trying to earn some dollars, got into making people happy when he saw the faces of folks, oh, you nice soda.

And, you know, the guys and the gals are sipping them. And I think it just, it ignited something in him that he really wanted to see. Serve up smiles. He wanted to see, uh, people happy and ice cream makes people happy, Nate. So we know that. So, uh, so they moved to Frankfort, uh, and that was, uh, near the Monon rail and that's where he started working in a dairy there. And then he was making ice cream sandwiches and selling them on the passenger trains as they went through Frankfort. And that was, uh, just before 1925 because he started the company in 25. So 23. 24. So this started as a side hustle. Yeah. Kind of a side hustle.

Yes. He was selling ice cream sandwiches. It was the same kind of ice cream sandwich that I'm thinking of, you know, like the. I don't know what I, what is an ice cream sandwich made out of actually? Like what is the brown part of an ice cream sandwich? Well, that's chocolate. It's like a chocolate little cookie thing.

Chocolate cookie, that's exactly right. Chocolate cookie. Okay. So was it like that kind of ice cream sandwich? Yes. Okay. So does he have like a little like cart or something or like out on the edge of the. Rail or the train, what do you call it? Train station. Yeah, the depot. The, the, that's a good question because we really don't necessarily know if he was, you know, how he was doing that, except he, we know that Foster was extremely inventive.

Oh. And so whatever he was doing, uh, he was gonna make sure that this ice cream was, uh, done well, and it was served well. And it was very popular because he basically, that's where everything got started right there. Okay. So he got started selling ice cream sandwiches. Yeah. Then he, in 1925, starts a company called Glover's Ice Cream.

Where was he still making ice cream sandwiches and shipping those out? Like, take us through the, the history of the business and how things started to progress. This is the 1920s, so people have ice cream money, but soon after people don't have ice cream money. Yeah. 29 is the crash. Yeah. Foster loved making people happy.

Yeah. I think that was really what was the, the, the, the whole passion for him. Mm-hmm. And he loved ice cream, and he knew how to do it because he started working at the dairy. Yeah. And then they bought a little piece of land and built, uh, the, the building that we're in now. Uh, oh, wow. So we're still there.

And I think this is important for people to know, this isn't an ice cream shop. No. There are tons of cool ice cream shops all around the state of Indiana and beyond that I love, like there are some very iconic ones. But this is an ice cream manufacturer, correct? Correct. Like we were Do you call a manufacturer?

Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead and call a manufacturer. I mean, I think sometimes we think that that can be a negative connotation, uh, as we've gotten into the business, it, it's not, and here's why. Right. Um, at the end of the day, ice cream's a dairy product and, uh, we are regulated by the state. Yeah. We obviously follow all of the, and go above, uh, the health, uh, concerns We're making food.

Yeah. Right? Yeah, absolutely. And that's a huge responsibility. Um, but manufacturer is a, is a great connotation because one of the things that you think about manufacturing is you think of. Scale. Yes. So we can scale. We do scale, and we want to scale. Yeah. And at the time we're talking about the history. Uh, Steve Glover, who, the third generation owner.

Okay. Wait. Yes. So take us. Yeah. So this is Foster who starts, it buys the same piece of property that you're in today. Yes. A hundred years later. And starts main, so you would be selling ice cream to. The, like soda stands and places like that. Well, well, what is so funny about the Foster again, he's, if you know the history of Preston Tucker, the Tucker Automobile, uh, foster was very much like Preston Tucker. He bought a truck and drove it around the town without even having ice cream in it, just to wet the appetite and say, get people excited about ice cream. And he still had to, he hadn't got it made. This guy was a marketer before marketing was a thing. Absolutely. He's just driving an empty ice cream to like, oh, you want some of this?

Cool. You Right. So I love it. So he gets this whole, this. People just excited about it. Now you gotta remember, in Frankfort, Indiana, there were seven dairies at the time. There were multiple dairies. Uh, you had Fraser, you had Frankfort dairy. You, and when you say dairy, well, they were actually making milk.

Okay. Everything else, you know? Uh, but Glover sided, you know, foster said, you know what? I don't necessarily want to deal with milk and cottage cheese and sour cream. Ice cream is my specialty. And, and, and he focused on ice cream. Yeah. The riches are in the niches, right? Yeah. Come on. You get started early.

Going all in on ice cream. Yeah. And then. Foster's children get involved with the business. His son Robert. Yeah, his son Robert. Yeah. Okay, and, and before we move on to Robert, I think the one thing to point out is there were seven dairies, but there were also five ice cream manufacturers. Steve Glover talks about it.

Five other ice cream manufacturers in Frankfort, Indiana alone. So you can think of, we were talking about refrigeration. Right. Being huge. Right. The competition, uh, right. Came aboard. It was a huge phenomenon. And I think if we were to take a look across the country, uh, country towns that had railroad lines probably had their own ice cream makers just like Frankfort at the time.

Oh, that is interesting to think about because it's like you give some, you have a new faces coming in and out of town frequently that you can serve too. Yeah. But five. Like, I mean, what was the population of Frankfort in the 1920s and thirties? Well, they would've been about 13,000, so, oh, that's actually pretty big.

Right? So Frankfort hasn't changed. This is an interesting tidbit about Frankfort as far as population 110 years, Frankfort has not, uh, changed population negatively. 2% or, or positively 2% for 110 years. So it has maintained a population which is kind of unique for a rural community. 'cause normally you see, uh, you know what, you know where you're digress or Yeah.

Or you're going to increase in population or, or like swallow up like some of the other Right. Uh, smaller rural municipalities around you. Yeah. Like, you know, new. New business comes to town, more people move in to be closer to the jobs, blah, blah, blah. You go up, you go down, et cetera. Right? So that's interesting to not shift more than 5%, 2%, 2%, 2%.

Holy smokes. Um, it's almost like, you know, a lot of stats about Clinton County or something. Yeah. Well that's, there we go. Kinda get, uh, paid to do that. Yeah. Right. Um, okay, so things progress. Well, one, do the other ice cream manufacturers start getting out of the business? Does the depre, I mean, the depression comes and people go from having a couple nickels to, you know, spend on an ice cream sandwich or whatnot to.

I mean, I don't know how having to save up to put food on the table, I feel like, uh, ice cream is a want, not necessarily a need. So how did things start to shift over the next few decades of, uh, Glover's ice cream? Well, to Tony's point, uh, these folks were also doing, they were making ice cream as part of the dairy.

Mm-hmm. Um, when they all started looking at, and you're right, 1929, changed everything. Uh, you know, people were just trying to survive. And that to me is the great story about Glover's because they stayed in that niche market, like you were saying, and they stayed in the ice cream market. Didn't really, they expanded some of those, uh, like novelties.

They started doing d variety of little Christmas trees and Easter bunnies and things like that in the ice cream world. Uh, but they st they stuck with ice cream while the others. They got swallowed up. Yeah. I mean, it came back to, to the, to the bigger companies started coming in and purchasing, uh, the, the products or the manufacturers that were there as far as the dairies.

Yeah, that's really, really And closed them. Yeah. Which is really interesting. And I think the, um, when you look through the importance of these businesses in communities, like when you rely on, I don't mean to look at like an Anderson. You rely on GM and these other places. And when big brands decide it's not in their bottom line's best interest to have this small rural manufacturing facility opened up, they close it and move stuff back to wherever they need to.

And it really affects these communities. And some of them, even now 50, 60 years later, are still trying to recover from those types of like, loss of manufacturing. So really interesting one. I could talk about that all day long. But things keep progressing. Glover's really, you know, hammers down in the ice cream business as things went on.

So Foster ends up passing the business on Yeah. Passing the business on to, to Robert. Bob. To Robert. Okay. And, uh, I mean, what we know about him, I'll, I'll share a personal story, right? Yeah. I, I grew up, uh, three blocks away from the manufacturing facility and, uh, I would ride my bike. I mean, riding my bike around Frankfort was absolute freedom for me.

It was, it was, uh, that was the best thing. I thought I was on cloud nine. Uh, so, so riding around my bike and, and seeing Glover's in operation, um, it dawned on me once I saw Glover's at the local IGA at the time. This is made right here in Frankfort, Indiana. Um, so, uh, Bob was the, uh, patriarch, namesake carried the, the, the name forward for really seemingly forever, uh, until Steve.

Okay. So gimme a rough scale. How big was the footprint of Glover's under Foster? Was it like, Hey, I sold on the trains and I sold in town? Maybe Clinton County, but how far out were was the product getting to? Well, I think you brought up a great point. Marketing was so key to all of these businesses back early on because you know, you, you notice that on buildings, you'd have their names, uh, billboards Barns would carry, uh, different name brands.

Name brand was so huge, and I think that was the, the success of with Foster was to get those trucks out, get their name out. And so, uh, he was moving beyond Frankfort. He was starting to look into the cr going into the Crawfordsville market and, uh, Lafayette market, he was starting. Then Robert, his son, came in and took it to the next level because he recognized for them to be successful, they would have to grow the business.

And that's when. Purdue University came involved. Got involved. Oh yeah. What happens with the boiler makers? Well, Tony, you wanna take that? Yeah, I'll take that. Um, my, my brother Juan Reyes is a proud, uh, Purdue alum. Uh, our general manager, Lori proud Purdue alum. Uh, Purdue has obviously an amazing agriculture school.

Uh, they are, uh, absolutely world renowned in many things, including Right. Uh, getting astronauts up to space, but they have an ag, ag program that's, uh, uh, you know, second to none. Yeah. Uh, and uh, and I think that at the end of the day, these universities, land grant universities grew right at that time. So I think that, uh, Bob saw an opportunity where there's a target market there with students.

Students love ice cream, Steve Jobs said Right. Something. Right. If you wanna make anybody, everybody happy, sell ice cream. Right. At the end of the day, people get excited and happy with ice cream. Right. Another thing that I've heard in the past, right? Is. You know, ice cream curing more, more heartbreaks than a, than a heart surgeon.

Bob saw that opportunity and went to Purdue for the students. Right. Uh, and, and also as a partner. Right? Um, Dave actually has a great story. I mean, you wanna talk about the, uh, one of our machines, the creamery? Yeah. So, uh, Purdue actually had their own creamery all the way up until 1969. And there was, uh, I don't know if it was local businessmen, but the businessmen weren't happy with Purdue because they were using free labor and making ice cream.

So. They agreed and they decided to exit the business. And in 1969, Glover's bought that equipment and we still make ice cream today on that same piece of equipment. That's pretty cool. It's very cool. Yeah. Okay. So gets really tied in with Purdue and so expands the business into Lafayette and starts selling to Purdue students, correct?

Yeah. Starts selling to Purdue, students expanding into Lafayette and grocers are a part of it, right? Uh, retail shops, scooping shops. So Lafayette was a key, I guess, um, growth engine. Yeah. And, and probably at that time, the three gallon, uh, container was the, the driver for the business. The three gallon was the more institutional for the college, the dormitories, I think where someone would scoop that, where somebody would scoop.

It would be the scooper, like what Tony said about the, the shops. Because most of your shops are buying the three gallon Yeah. Uh, products. So, so yeah. As consumers like. Were people having like, I mean, these pints of ice cream, like, I think that everyone knows when they think of like self-serve, like single serve ice cream, it's like a pint of Ben and Jerry's.

Mm-hmm. Everyone knows like, you know, heartbreak, big Ga, like whatever it might be. Grab a pint of Ben and Jerry's and you go sit on the couch. Like, was that common or was it like you had to go to a place to get ice cream? Ice cream wasn't home delicacy. The, the three gallon was much, much more common Yeah.

In the scooping shops. And that, that was just much more common. Okay. But, but they, but Bob did know that there was a need for the novelties and they did some of those things like the, like the, uh, the Christmas trees, uh, ice cream and things like that. But then the 16 ounce, they started doing the 16 ounce, uh, the half, the half gallon, the 48 ounce.

Yeah. Uh, and then the gallon. So it did get into the homes that, and that was what I loved, because you could go right to the store. When I first moved to Frankfort in 1983, you could go right to the store and they would have all of the half gallon boxes up there, all the different flavors up on above the fireplace.

And you could go pick and say, oh yeah, I want Butter Pecan, or whatever the case may be. Yeah. Well, th that brings me to a, a fun portion is what's your guys', each of your first memories with Glover's favorite, first favorite flavor? Like, give me, 'cause I mean, you, it has to have made a lasting impact on you to want to be owners and keep this brand alive.

And we're gonna get into that portion of the story here soon. But talk to me about how, where Glover's first made an impact on you guys. I just. Remember laying down on the living room floor watching Purdue basketball and eating Blue Moon ice cream. So, I mean, we constantly had a big three gallon tub and, uh, we'd have the neighbors over and watch Purdue and eat ice cream.

Whoa. Well, you had the three gallons at home. Oh yeah. That's a lot of freezer space. It was dangerous. Oh man. That's wild. Okay. Uh, mine, uh, I already hit on it, but I'll I'll add more context to it. Yeah. And, uh, it was, uh, again, riding my bike and there's glovers, I mean, I. Uh, when I saw it at the IGA store, that's, that's what I bought.

And I bought Butter Pecan. Butter Pecan is my favorite. And, and the half gallon, even as a young, even as a young man, absolutely. I feel like I, I don't know what the age is. I think for me it was like 27. I turned 27 and all of a sudden I liked Butter Pecan. Yeah. But I was like 12. I was like, no, Jan, my grandma orders Butter Pecan.

I I'm an old soul. There you go. Yes, I take it. Right. An and, uh, and, and I would keep buying it and I, I thought it was like a national brand. I mean, I really thought national brand just because, uh, and I was so proud that was made there. Uh, the other one is the, um, uh, the, the tubs right. That size, um, that, that was the vanilla.

We'd buy that. Mm-hmm. As well. I, I still remember when we decided to buy the company, um, I think my mom still had one of those from, you know, uh, it's a great storage unit item and I saw it at my house in a closet. And she has things in there. And I mean, at the end of the day, Glover's has been part of our. Uh, our home since I was, you know, 10 years old.

I mean. Wow. So, okay. Yeah. I, for me, moving, I was a youth. I became a, I was a youth pastor at the, at the, a local church and, uh, Bob and Virginia Glover. Um, we would, we would do, uh, youth fundraisers and they would always be willing to donate and help. And so I went over there one day to pick up a, a donation, and that was the first day that I actually got, Hey, you wanna taste some ice cream?

And I tasted the ice cream and it Wow. I was like, wow. I never had ice cream like that. That just came right out of the manufacturing, out of the, out of the Purdue Creamery, out of the machine that we use, uh, out of the, uh, dash, the dasher of that, uh, machine. But we, um, I fell in love with it and, and mine is, uh.

Peppermint, the Peppermint Candy. I love the Peppermint Candy. That, that all, all seasons, all time of year. We do it, we do it all time year. That, that was seasonal back then. Yeah. But we all liked Peppermint Candy, so we thought we just, it needs to be a Christmas all year round. I I, I never tried Peppermint Candy.

Yeah. Until we bought this company. Mr. I have Butter Pecan, but I've never had Peppermint Candy. Never, never had it. Oh. So, and we've got, I've got a really funny story about this and actually one of the light of talk about. You know, pulling yourself back to being a kid. Right. Um, when we started, um, offering the, the, the, the product back to the marketplace, uh, we, we joined forces with a, uh, with a smaller grocer.

We sold the Peppermint Candy. And, uh, I remember walking back in there and, um, going in there to buy some, some stuff at this grocer, small grocer. And, uh, somebody told me a story like, Hey, when you, when, when it was brought in here, um, the butcher tried it. And he's like, yeah, I remember a time when I was a kid.

There's this old ice cream company that, uh, peppermint Candy was so good and it was opened up. And he said, that's it. That's the Peppermint Candy. No. And it, it was Glover's. Wow. So at the end of the day, uh, right, it's, uh, I had never tried it until now. It's, it's wonderful. It's phenomenal. Wow. How many flavors, how many flavors?

We brought you some today. Oh, we're gonna get, we're gonna get into that portion. I am a bit of an ice cream aficionado. I would like to say, uh, how many flavors like were. Uh, the mainstays to Glover's as it was the brand was growing. And then how many do you have today? Uh, I, you know, I, I think Steve told me that they made up to 78 flavors at 78 Yeah.

At one time. So obviously that fluctuates as seasons go, but yeah. Um, today we're making a little bit over 20 different flavors and we're focusing that on our three gallon tubs and then these small eight ounce containers. Wow. 10 flavors. Oh, so you're around, would you say 20? Yeah, a little over 20. A little over 20.

Okay. It fluctuates. What's the, uh, what's the most obscure, like, fun, wild, kind of out there flavor. Oh, man. Death by Chocolate is a very good, how do you name, how do you name chocolate flavors? Like who is it? That's a good question. That's a, like, do we sit in the room? We crack a few pints open and we just start sharing stories.

Death by Chocolate, like Gelato Mudslide. That could be it guys. Yeah. Yeah. That goes, yeah. I, I don't know who came up with that name. And how long Death by Chocolate's been around? It is definitely an amazing flavor. Well, if there's ever a naming like meeting and that's going on up in Clinton County, can I get an invite to that?

Absolutely. Sit around. Absolutely. Eat some ice cream and get some names. By, by, by the way. You know, um, uh, in, in our generation, right? Uh, the movie Blue Chips, uh, was filmed in Frank Frankfort, Indiana. And, uh, David was talking about Sonic Blue. Uh, but it was also known as, uh, Blue Moon. Yeah. Before that. But I'm pretty certain that when that movie was being filmed, actually that name of, uh, the Blue Moon was, uh, they renamed Blue Chips.

They renamed it The Blue Chips. The Blue Chips for a while, right? Oh, so Blue Chip. Yeah. There's a lot of different ways you can name these. Right. Death by Chocolate sounds, uh, threatening and like it'll kill you. Yeah. It, it'll kill you from the absolute delight from the It's phenomenal. Yeah, absolutely.

Okay. That Blue Moon that he's talking about, so it was, it was Sonic Blue when we bought this place. That's something that we've decided to take back to the roots. So let's get back to that Blue Moon. The, this container here that. That right there. We took the logo back to how it was. Yeah. So it's been great.

Yeah. And I do think going for more of a, like vintage traditional look is really popular now in 2025. Oh yeah. Uh, and it's like your heritage, you know, you talked about like the whole container that you guys have up here, you have the Indiana Groan, which means like a hundred percent of everything comes from Indiana, I believe.

Don't quote me on that. Basically if it's manufactured or made in Ah, okay. Indiana. But there, the in different ingredients can come from, uh, different places, but, but it's all assembled, like put, put together and made in Indiana. Okay. And you have the a hundred year old bad 'cause it's a hundred year old business.

Correct? Yeah. Which is wild. Okay, so we're only to generation two. We gotta keep the story rolling. We could just chit chat about ice cream flavors all day. So. Uh, Robert Bob Glover is generation two. Yes. How long does he kinda run the business for and what gets to, is it Steve as third generation? Yeah. So, uh, Robert and Virginia run the, uh, uh, run it until the, uh, end of the seventies, early eighties.

Uh, Steve came back, Steve was in, Steve was an ENG engineer, um, and had a very good, uh, career going out east. Um, and then, uh, he was with a large corporation there, uh, started looking, getting a little homesick for Indiana. And that's what I love about your show, Nate. I think, uh, being able to highlight Indiana Indiana's the greatest state in the union.

Amen. And Indiana is just a, um, you know, a blessing as a, as a, as a transplant. Uh, I totally believe that and, and, and know and understand so many other people that have the same feeling. But so did Steve and Kathy. They met at Purdue University. They ended up. Um, leaving, going out east thinking that things were gonna go well there.

They did go well, but there was that hankering, hungering, the comeback. And so they came back to Frankfort. Well, who was running the business for Bob and Virginia was running the, the business while he was they were gone. Okay. Yeah, they were gone. And so they came back and, uh, you know, Steve's dad said, do you want a, do you want an ice cream business?

And he, they thought, I, I got a pretty sweet gig to offer for you. Get a sweet gig. And, um, you know, and so at the end of the day, uh, Steve and Kathy decided, you know what? They wanted to be closer to family. They wanted to be back in Indiana. And you know what? They had a lot of great memories. Yeah. And do you have a relative idea to the size or the scale that Glover's was in the seventies or eighties?

Like, is this, has this expanded past like Tippecanoe and Clinton County and kinda like a regional distributor? Or was it like still pretty local, regional? No, they, they had actually grown, uh, quite a bit. I mean, in the Fort Wayne area, right? They were, they were, they were, they were known in the state by the time Steve and Kathy.

I always wonder because see I had never heard of Glover's until we kinda started the process of learning about this a hundred. Anytime anyone hits me with, Hey, we have a hundred year old, anything, I'm interested. Yeah. I'm like, oh, a hundred year old Indiana, Torti, tortoise, I'm in. So like when I started to go down, I was like, oh, this is really, that's next flavor.

Yeah, right. There we go. Um, and so I always wonder though, like, I was just down in Evansville and they talked about like the local lore of, um, Grippo and ski or like, it's like a soda and a chip and it's like, have you guys ever heard of these? No. See it. Like I said, I was down there and they're like, you never had Grippo?

And I was like, no, I've never, like, I don't know what this is. So it's interesting that like even these regional pockets of one state of Indiana like, ha don't really know that much about each other, you know, and those things can happen. So at this point though, Glover's had expanded outside of Clinton and Tippecanoe County up in Fort Wayne, but is it like, this isn't like a Midwestern brand or anything like that, that it's blown up at that point?

At this point, it's, it's not a Midwestern brand. Right, right. Yeah. Uh, but it is a, a regional brand in Indiana and yeah. You, you mentioned Evansville. I mean, at the end of the day, and I can pontificate on this a lot, but our road system is set up to lead into Indianapolis and then out, right? Yeah. It's not until really the last 10 years that.

You know, you have 69 for Evansville and you have 31 that goes up to South Bend. You mentioned you started South Bend to Evansville. It was hard to go north and south. All right. Um, but Indianapolis really became a larger marketplace at the end of the day. Two thirds, not two thirds, but you know, the sizeable pop part of the population of Indiana is Indianapolis.

Right. So at the end of the Indianapolis became key. Yeah. And it will continue to be key in the future. Yeah, absolutely. So, uh, Steve. He gets into the family business after coming back from the East coast. This is the seventies, eighties timeline. The late seventies, early eighties, late seventies, early eighties.

Then when does he end up taking everything over and does Bob like stay in the, in the ice cream business? Yeah. Bob stayed around for, uh, a good while and, uh, but Steve and Kathy, uh, you know, they came in with their ideas and, and took it to another level. Okay. Uh, more, more trucks. Uh, I remember talking to Steven, I know Dave remembers this conversation where they were really excited when they bought their 2000, I think it was 2001 and 2002 trucks, those big, beautiful, uh, freezer trucks.

And uh, and you know, and you gotta remember too, that Schwan's is now starting to come into the Oh, so you start having, because they were delivering, it was like home delivery. Home delivery, yeah. We were not like, maybe the most well off, so like once a quarter. I felt like we got something from that.

Like, but there were families that had it. We never got it. Oh, there you go. I mean, so I'm jealous of you there. Once a quarter. Once a quarter we'd like say, all right, we're gonna have, and we the little, like they had the ice cream again, it all comes back when you're a kid to ice cream. It's like the little, like chocolate swirl cups from, oh man, that stuff was good.

So like, this is a competitor that's in this ice cream space. Well, the, the competition just started to grow. I mean, you get, you, like you, you mentioned Ben and Jerry. I mean there's, you get all the national brands and then you've got regional brands. But there was also, if you don't run things correctly, and I think the great thing about Steve and Kathy, Steve is just so.

Focused on maintenance and keeping things up and making sure, because he could, you know, as a small company, you can't just go out and buy. And that, that was why they celebrated getting those new trucks there that year because they had had some good years and so they had put that money back to buy those trucks.

And I think they, um, that, that was really the saving factor is Steve's focus on Yeah. Keeping things up and using the equipment. They didn't go out and buy a lot of new equipment. We just used the same, we're still using the same equipment. Yeah. I, okay. I actually have a, a thought experiment for you guys here.

You know, what else starts to change around 2000 is kind of like the American grocery system mm-hmm. Of. Back in, you're right, the two thousands. Yeah. There was one-off family grocery stores everywhere. Like you could probably drive through rural Indiana and ours was called Lincoln's in bourbon, Indiana.

Yeah. And like it was a family owned one of one location. So for you to sell Glover's into Lincoln's, you just had to meet one person. Mm-hmm. But then it starts to consolidate and starts those turn into Dollar Generals and Family dollars or the just get closed. Walmart's come in and the, the amount of like local lore and it's like you, your buyer for Walmart might be based in Bentonville, Arkansas.

Yeah. They've never heard of Glover's. Like they've never heard of like this. Even if it is beloved by locals, it makes it really hard. You gotta start driving down to Arkansas and build a relationship with someone that isn't from your area. Do you guys notice this change of like the American grocery system being different and how did that change within, you talk about IGA, they're one of the smaller brands that I'd say still hold out and have like rural grocery stores, but there's not a ton of those.

That's, that's. 100% correct on everything you just said. And it's interesting digging into that side of the business 'cause it's a whole different side of the business and you are dealing with people that are, could be a state away, but they're in control of a hundred stores. I actually enjoy that part of it, but I really like getting into little bakeries and little, just all over the state of Indiana where our product is getting out.

Yeah. Um, is important to me. But those grocery stores are very important too, and that has definitely changed and. And, uh, we're navigating through that right now as we speak. So, yeah, I think that's an interesting piece of like, you, uh, I just heard something about how Sam Walton comes in and, you know, builds a ton of Walmarts and like strategically puts those places and didn't really compete against these bigger groceries.

It was just like, oh, the local mom and pop grocery store. Like, yeah, we can put them out of business. And it's a, well, Nate, I'm gonna give it worked. Give, I'm gonna give you a bit of history. Yeah. Frankfort is the first Walmart in the state of Indiana. Oh, wow. So in 1986, uh, the, the first Walmart was supposed to be southern, uh, south of Indianapolis.

That zoning did not go, so they started knocking on some of the other rural communities. Uh, Frankfort was the first to pull the trigger, and so that was a different dynamic. For Walmart, which is now our rule king. And then 'cause Walmart in 2001 turned around and built a Supercenter Walmart. So we have a superstore to Dave's point.

Um, and, and that was in 1986 when Walmart came. Oh wow. Uh, so all those smaller little groceries like Schultz IGA, which is now Schultz Market, their, now they're even independent of the IGA. Um, you know, we had Joe's market. I mean, there were so many. You had a and p uh, you have a variety of these different smaller markets, uh, Hamilton's market. These are all family owned, are family led, uh, managed. And that, that's a perfect, uh, you know, the example that you shared of, of the dynamic of the two thousands, uh, it did impact a lot of small, smaller companies because for us to go into a Walmart or a bigger company, the insurance liability goes way, way up.

So. It ha We have to look at the bottom line on all of that before we say, well, why aren't you this? And why aren't you this store? Well, it, it, it's, it's money. Uh, it's also delivery. It's the logistics of it all. And it, it's, it's definitely a challenge as to Dave's, uh, you know, what Dave was saying, but that dynamic of Walmart, us being the first Walmart in the state of Indiana, um, a lot of mom and pops were really very nervous and very concerned about, well, what's gonna happen to us and what's gonna hap you know, where we're gonna go?

And it changed the whole landscape of rural America. Oh, I totally believe that. Super interesting. I could talk life for hours about that because it's, yeah, they, they have changed a lot of that. And, and it makes the business, you'd think, uh, okay, all that, all we have to do then is just get into our local Walmart.

And it's not that simple. It Right. It's not that easy. No, it's not. Who do you go press six to get to the Frankfort purchasing department? Like, come on. So things start to advance. New trucks come in 2000, 2000, 2001 timeline. Yep. So things seem to be going pretty well. Uh, how does the next evolution of glover's, what happens there?

What happens throughout the two thousands? I, I would have to say that the three gallon container was, would be the biggest thing because them servicing Purdue University, Indiana Wesleyan, numerous other locations, Beef & Boards in Indianapolis, which we still do, the three gallon container, was a, was a huge, uh.

Aspect of that business. So, um, when we got involved, one thing that we've kind of moved to are these eight ounce container. We still do a lot of three gallon tubs. We do a lot of grocery store stuff, but these eight ounce containers, we're doing a lot more that are more like grab and go, grab and go, you know, like it could be at, uh, the convenience store, wherever, or like they are at the convenience store.

And we're getting into a lot of other different places too. And one big thing we're doing right now is getting in high school gymnasiums. Okay. Oh. So we're working with a lot of different athletic departments and it's a big thing for us is huger hysteria and the kids, the parents, the people that are eating these cups, like the, it's just, it's very cool.

And you can see it on, uh, any of our social platforms as well. Heck, just as you, just as you indicated, uh, right with the, the change in, uh, Walmart and I had no idea Walmart, Frankfort was the first one in Indiana. Now I know. It was such a huge deal, uh, back then. American consumers always on the go.

Obviously, right? I mean, fast food. What, what's everyone talking about right now? Fast food prices are high because we've been so used to the fact that, oh, if I buy fast food, it's cost effective. It's cheap. Right? Well, it, it's not because things have changed, but when you're on the go, you're not gonna buy a three gallon container.

You're not gonna even buy a 48 ounce. You can buy a smaller amount, pay a little bit more, and enjoy a quality product. And it's like the, if you think about, um, this might be good or bad to say, but like three gallons, I don't need three gallons of ice cream all the time. Like, that's bad for me and my Yeah, yeah.

But like, we know the feeling once a month, once every couple weeks or so. Like, I just like need the, I need like a grab and go and I need the fix, you know? Uh, I always say what we need is treadmills because we're probably eating a little bit too much ice cream. Well, and it's so interesting, like. The, the times when you need ice cream, it isn't necessarily like every night, you know, it's, it's, you're a grandparent and your, your grandkids come over and you want to create this core memory.

Like I have them. I thought my grandparents were the richest people I'd ever met. 'cause they had cones at their house. And on whatever day we would go to grandma and grandpa's, I would get ice cream in a cone. Yeah. And I was like, you could do this at home. Little did I know cones were like 99 cents at Aldi or whatever, but like I thought it was the coolest thing.

And that's a core memory, getting a vanilla ice cream cone at my grandparents' house. And so having it on hand for like. These nostalgia building moments is so cool. And so I love it. I I could talk all day about the nostalgia of ice cream. Well, well, Nate is the only grandparent in the room, I can tell you.

It is, it is just as equally satisfying to watch our grandkids enjoy it, um, and want that and desire that because, and I think that's one of the great things about our company is that we have this generational connection, uh, that grandma's and grandpa's, when they were little kids, were eating glover's ice cream, and, you know.

Yeah. And, and one of the interesting pieces is like, you can't argue, um, like Ben and Jerry's is one of the most iconic ice cream brands. And like when people who support Ben and Jerry's eat Ben, and like, they know what all you're getting involved in, right? Like, that's their whole piece, which like the fact that your ice cream, like supporting a local place can make you feel a way, and it's not just a commodity product, right?

It's not just like. I don't know, great value, vanilla, blah, blah, blah. It's like, this is an Indiana business, what's been here for a hundred years and hope to be here for a hundred more years. Like, that's, that's what you're getting in this eight ounce cup, that that's what you're getting. And, and, uh, the, the word generational right, uh, strikes up, uh, a few memories here on, on Mr.

Steve Glover, right? Um, he did a phenomenal job of taking pictures with his family, uh, making memories, uh, pictures that we have today, uh, in the facility. I mean, Lori and David and, uh, the folks that work in this business seemingly every single day. Uh, you know, and I, I show up to see my parents. They still live in the same place in Franklin, Indiana.

And I stopped by to see how things are going. It is like a museum. And I want to thank David on that. I wanna thank Lori and I wanna thank Steve Glover because he kept so many pictures, so many memories. Yeah. And that's what you're, that's what you're buying. Uh, you're buying a quality product. Yeah. But you're buying three generations and now hopefully caretakers that can put it forward to some of our family members.

Yeah. No. Okay. So talk to me, where does Steve's tenure with Glover's, uh, start to come to an end? Yeah, so Steve, uh, and Kathy decide they, they, Steve actually and I, um, I'm the economic development director for our county as well. So, uh, Steve had reached out to me one day and said, Hey, Shannon. Uh, you know, probably not gonna do this the rest of my life, and I'm looking maybe at an exit strategy.

So we started talking and, and the exit strategy for him was either they were gonna close it completely, just close the business. They did not have that next generation that wanted to keep going. Their, their kids were involved and engaged in other things. So, uh, Steve and Kathy were, do we, you know, we close it, we sell it.

Or we just kinda keep running it. So, uh, but that was really not an option, so it was either selling it or closing it. In 2019, I ran into someone that had a desire, uh, to, to, to purchase a local manufacturer. They were, they were a regional person and really fell in love with the whole idea of glovers. They connected and met Steve, Kathy and, and, and this gentleman, they got together, Steve and Kathy sold the business at that time, uh, to the owner.

Uh, that took over pre, you know, preceding us. Yeah. And so, and that's how Steve and Kathy pretty much exited out. Okay. And at that point, uh, and that was 2019? 2019, yeah. What was the size of Glover's then? Was it like serving multiple states or just multiple cities across Indianapolis? Like give us a relative footprint of Glover's?

It was the, pretty much the same. It was, uh, regional. They, um, they were doing well. Um, and I think that was one of the reasons that this person saw the opportunity. Let's take it to another level. Yeah. Uh, they, they immediately came in and changed the logo and changed things. They, they had a different idea that was their, and it was theirs.

I mean, they wanted to take it to a different level and they did that. And I think that went well for a while. Uh, but you know, when, when, with those, those pieces of equipment, Dave knows this so well. Dave is our equipment man. He is, he is, he is kind of the all purpose guy, uh, at Glover's. But when you don't maintain those, uh, those older pieces of equipment, it just one day.

Can, can really mess things up. Yeah. You, I mean, one bad experience in the weather can really mess things up. And that's kind of what happened at the end of 2023. There was a major freeze. It was kind of that, if you remember that arctic blast that came in The polar vortex. The polar vortex. That's right.

That's right. Absolutely. And it took, uh, it took basically that, wouldn't you agree David? That was when it took Oh, yeah. Out the compressors and it was, now you're in a point where we've gotta put a lot of money in this. You talk about like a bad Tuesday, like you show up, you're frozen, driving to work, like waiting for your heat to turn on.

You get there and you're like, ice cream factory is totally toasted. Yes. Actually no, the opposite of toasted. Totally. Frozen. Frozen. That's a tough day at the office. But, but the compressors were all frozen, which you have to keep those compressors to make everything work. Those compressors are from like 1930 and 40, so they're ammonia driven compressors, which is.

Some of the most efficient ways of freezing now. Um, but it was obviously way before Freon. Um, some of those guys have said that the ammonia would be actually coming back in the near future, but who knows? But in order to even fix those repairs, thank the lord my brothers like a, uh, a engineer without a degree and, uh, he was able to fabricate and take that up.

Okay. He's a great guy. This, this is what I love about small town Indiana. You just said, my brother's an engineer without a degree. Everyone's got one of those on speed dial. Like if you're from a small town, you know someone that like, if they didn't have to write papers, could have been a Purdue engineer.

Oh, yeah. You know, like if it wasn't all the, like, the other parts that came with school, if it was just like fixing and building stuff, like, shout out to my, my best friend Andrew is that guy for me, that's his brother's name. Andrew. Andrew. It's, it runs in the name. Yeah. But like I could give him like. Yeah.

Do you ever watch, uh, Apollo 13 where they like put that box of stuff out in the middle and they're like, we have to figure out how to save them with just these objects, and they start just putting it all together. Like, that's Andrew. Like you could give him a paperclip and he could get us to the middle.

Glover's was Apollo 13. I mean, that's exactly the great analogy, Nate, because we, we came in and we're like, well, we don't know how to do this and we don't know how to do that, and we don't know how to do this. And all of a sudden, you know, Dave calls Andy, Andy knows people, and then Tony's calling people, we're all, we're all, no, no, like you said, just no people.

And they were coming. And the community was unbelievable. The people that were coming out of the woodwork that would call, Hey, you know what, we, I've got a welder. I can, you know, I can help, I can do this. I think I know how to do this. It was amazing. And this is, so that fateful day in 2023 compressors.

Toast it. Like things are going downhill. How do you all hear about, like, and how does this next ownership wave end up coming in and taking this over? Tony Del Re and David, uh, their partners and as, and some other businesses and friends of mine. And, and of course again, as the chamber director, I hated to see what was happening.

We had people calling us. What? You can't let, I mean telling us you can't let this die. What? Do you know what I'm thinking? Of course. Oh my gosh. Well, because that's what looked like it was gonna happen. Yeah. They're like, it goes to, okay, we're gonna sh close this up. Right. And it was so was it like a Facebook post or something?

Oh, there was a Facebook post, social media. Like they post saying, Hey, just to let you all know, like this is gonna be the end. Yeah. And okay, so what did each of you feel? When you see this on Facebook, wherever you are in the world, you see that you're beloved hometown, 98-year-old ice cream manufacturer is closing up shop to be.

To be fair, the the, the previous, um, uh, owners were looking for solutions as well. They were right. They, they really were. Um, obviously once we, we got in, uh, and realized the, uh, Herculean effort, right. Um, Apollo 13, uh, is the perfect analogy you said, but, but David, you, I want you to tell a story in terms of you and Mr.

Del Re and then, then how we got involved. The Res Brothers here, me and Tony obviously talk a lot, and then we are have done business before and do, do business and uh, and we're in the real estate business. So whenever I look at something, I'm always looking at it for, you know, real estate. And when that post came out, we, he sent me a text because he knew my brother could fix about anything.

And, uh, I sent something to my brother and he's. You're like the 35th person that's texted me this morning about this, and me and Tony started talking again, and it was kind of just like, you know, we, we should, we should buy that. You know? And Tony would say he'd drive by there, you know, heading to his shop and look over there.

And there wasn't much activity. I knew he was talking to Shan and, um, then Tony said something about the Reyes twins. And, uh, and I trust Tony, you know, and, and we just started moving forward on that whole plan. And, uh, as I got to know, she better and the reyes's and I mean, we're just all hustlers and it all, it's, it's all worked out great.

You know, so it, it, that's kind of how all that started. The, the Tony that David's referencing is Tony do reel. Uh, he, he's a lifelong friend. Uh, and he, he has always texted my brother and I, uh, I, I spent, uh, 14 years in Chicagoland area. Uh, my, my brother did too. He is now lives in Rezo, uh, Indiana. Uh, so we are.

We are repatriated. I, I do believe what Shan said, this is the greatest state in the union, and I'll stand behind that any day of the week. Uh, and fortunately we came back and Tony was always, Tony Del Re was always looking for us to invest back into Frankfort because he, he knows how we have felt, uh, about the town and growing up there.

I mean, we are, uh, you know, my parents are, are from Mexico originally. Uh, first generation, Frankfort, Indiana was everything to us. It really was. Looking back on it, I thought it was the greatest place in the world. So he texted us and he's like, Hey, what's your favorite ice cream? And my brother had a, a smart Alec response Dairy Queen, and he's like, no, I'm, I'm serious.

And there's been so many things, invest, this just didn't make sense, right. Uh, in the past. And, uh, and I asked him, what are you getting after he goes, uh, Glover's is, is available. And I immediately texted my brother. I'm like, this is it. Thi this is it. I mean, thi this, this talk about like this little boy on a bike.

Me, like I can own that. I, I want in immediately. So, uh, we, we uh, we set up a call, started listening. Uh, took, uh, one of my daughters on a trip up to, I was taking to soccer game in Lafayette and saw, saw the facility and, uh, just realized, uh, talked to my wife and my brother, talked to his, and here we are.

All of a sudden the the Glover Five are born and, and the go course go there. I was just gonna say, I mean it was definitely, you know, a gamble. I mean, 'cause we, none of us, I guess she and has been in the food business a little bit, but, um, besides when I worked at White Castle when I was 16 years old, you know, like we don't know nothing about the food business.

And, uh, me and Tony have been gambling for years. I guess when I look back on it, you know, back when we used to trade baseball cards, so we knew as kids. Um, so we knew this was a gamble, but it was a good calculated gamble that we got involved with a lot of good hustlers here. And, um. It's been a great thing.

Yeah. How quickly did the deal come together to take over with the new ownership group? Jumped in the action once you saw it in the situation. That was in, Steve and Kathy came back. Uh, we called them. They came and looked over things and they were, they were pretty saddened. And, uh, Steve at that time said, look, if you guys are gonna be involved in this, we would be willing to, to, you know, help at least get you go get, get you back up and running.

And it was a hercule, a hercule, uh, uh, uh, act because Steve, I don't think, realized all the, I mean, taking the compressors apart, rebuilding them, and Steve working with David's, uh, brother Andy and so many other folks just came, uh, you know, to the table and said, we want to help. And Steve, Steve really helped us through that.

The Glover's, we can't say enough about the glovers. Steve and Kathy are just been wonderful people to help us make that happen. This is another interesting piece about small town Indiana. A lot of times, no matter where you are in the world, LA you sell your software company or whatever. I'm out. I'm out, dude, I'm out.

Like, as soon as that wire hits the bank account, I'm chilling. Like now you Good luck, Buster. I will say that, uh, I think a lot of that has to do with Tony Del reel because Tony, in my opinion, was instrumental in negotiating the fact that Steve, Steve Glover, we want you to come back. Okay. And without Steve, it, it really, it would've been, I, I mean, it would've taken a lot longer than what it took to for us to get that back up and going.

So yeah, Steve Glover was a big key to that. And in order to that, for that to happen, um, Tony negotiated that. So, but, and it's also like. If you think about it in general, there were probably better business investments that you guys could make. You know, like, Hey, I can tell you, me and Tony were are already involved in multiple businesses, you know, so better.

Like, yeah. Now all of a sudden we're involved in this bigger business. You, you say that Nate, but I'm, but I'll, but I'm gonna say and push back just a little bit. Yeah. Yes. Numbers wise, but nothing from the emotional standpoint, right? Yes. Of what this is. Yes. What it stands for. And that's 'cause you grew up in small town Indiana.

Yeah. That you have this like, like I have this like. Uh, gravitational pull towards bourbon Indiana. Like, I don't know what I'm gonna do there, but that's where my hometown is. And I like want to, if I, you know, make it big, I wanna be like, go buy something in, in my hometown because it just means something here.

Here's what, here's what it means. Right? Just, it just means something, right? Yeah. Put yourself in in the shoes. Like with David Meek, uh, watching, right? Purdue basketball, eating that Sonic Blue. No, no different. If you're an IU fan, 87, they win it. How about Notre Dame? When they win national, you might be eating Glover, Notre Dame Na in 88.

Uh, the Colts in 2006, uh, you know, winning the Super Bowl, Bob Lemy, we're going to Super Bowl. You're eating, you're eating Blue Moon. That's what it means. Yeah. And at the end of the day, you can't put a price on that, in my opinion. Right? Yes. Much better investments. But at the end of the day, uh, how many unique, uh, a hundred year old companies in Indiana can you buy.

Uh, and get that phone call. Not many. Yeah. And it, it is really cool to, uh, put yourself in a position. You grow up in Frankfort, you move on and you're like in technology, all this stuff. But to be on the speed dial list where someone's like, Hey. We need like, and so it's one part entrepreneurship and one part almost like civic duty, like as a, as a faithful hot dog.

Oh. Someone had to keep this business going Once a hot dog, always a hot dog. I'll Dying with the hot dogs. Yes, sir. All day. Um, and, and David is a Hornet. He's a Rossville Hornet. Yeah. Wait, we, it's all right. That's, is that still Clinton? That's Clinton County all the way. Great people in Rossville. Great people in Prairie and Central as well.

Yeah. Uh, Go Gophers. There you go. Yeah. That's, that's Prairie, right? Yeah. Clinton Prairie, the Bulldogs. Clinton Central. There we go. There. I know. All my Lord members all up. That's crazy. Come on. So as things progress then, you guys. End up becoming the Glover Five. How long did it take to get things back up and going with the compressors and all that?

When you say a good six to seven months? Yeah, I mean, we were sourcing parts from all over the nation just to fix this stuff. So you, you buy an ice cream business that can't make ice cream? Yeah. Correct. Yeah. That, hey, that's, that's exactly right. So I don't have an MBA, but gentlemen, so, so, so we buy this, we can't make ice cream.

We can't even get the, uh, the, those compressors to even turn on. Here's a question. Yeah. Did you buy a truck and drive it around downtown? No, but we did put, it came with trucks. It came with trucks that were broke down, but we put 'em out at Tony's dealership. And so people are looking at that. It, it is amazing how you'd move things around.

And then, then the, you know, the rumor mill, you know how things get started in social media and they said, Hey, we're here. What's going on? There's a lot of activity going on. There's a lot. And then, so I'm having to tell people, well, there's, and this is before we even close on the, on the business, I, I, that look, I'm indebted to these guys, uh, Tony Del Re, David Meek, uh, Juan, and Tony because, well before we even closed, we were.

Cleaning the place up. We had our grandkids and kids out there. We were cleaning the place up. We were, we were investing before there was ever an investment. Mm-hmm. And so at that point, a April 18th is the day we closed, actually bought the, but we'd been working for two months. Oh yeah. At least two months.

And we didn't get to start making ice cream until late August, early September. That year of 24, correct? Yes. Yes. Oh, wow. Correct. And so we're like, we are like just rolling over a year, right? Yeah. Correct. Wow. Yeah. We, we've only been in this a year and, and I, I, I, I am truly, and my brother, we are truly indebted.

To Mr. Steve Glover, but these three guys in Frankfort that are are local, right? Uh, you know, we, we, we just, we weren't there to go clean up. We, we just, we can't, I mean, I, like you said, I'm in tech, right? I'm in tech, and that, that is my day job and day and night job. It seems like my brother has an amazing career as well with other side projects.

These guys, you have to have the local aspect. Uh, that's something that we, we cannot provide, right? Mm-hmm. But it took months. I mean, in fact, I think that when the first run happened, I, I, it was unbelievable. We didn't believe it, right? But yeah, we did it. Wow. Crazy. Well, and Steve was with us okay. And that he kind of helped and he, David was walking around with a little notepad writing everything down and taking pictures with his phone. And, uh, I'm praying, you know, so we're, we're all, we all have these different, uh, we're all at, at the battle stations there with that first day and, you know, thank goodness things and is there like a little like. In my mind, how I picture it is, well one, when things started shuffling around. I see like the anonymous post on like, what's up, Frankfort on Facebook, like, what's going on with the like, do people buy this?

Blah, blah, blah, and it's like the classic. Then on the day of the first run, I imagine there's like a vintage notebook with all of the recipes of all of the flavors. It's a clipboard. It's a clipboard. One singular clipboard has some like chocolate stains and a couple things on there, a little rust.

Seasoned. Yeah. That's how you know it's good ice cream. You know, I don't want this like, on a computer anywhere. Yeah. I want like an, an old school. We didn't even have a computer. The computer didn't even work. We had the clip, the clipboard was where all of the, in all the ingredients, the recipes were on the clipboard.

Okay. And we were saying, and we were freaking out one day because we couldn't find the clipboard, the mail. And we're, where's the clipboard? You know? So, but thank that would be so brutal. They, like, someone's say, ah, this thing is old. Throws the clipboard out and you're like, what? Where's page three of the clipboard?

Yeah. Well, and that's where Tony comes, because Tony is a thrower. He likes to throw things away. So we're always worried that don't get, don't get Tony near the, let him, don't let him near the clipboard. But we were so, you know, that was such a blessing. But really the transformational blessing is when, uh, we brought in Lori, uh, Lori, Lori, uh, has been the rockstar, uh, for us.

Uh, we were all trying, if you can imagine, we all have bi many businesses. I'm a. I'm also a minister. I coach football at Clinton Prairie. We have tech business. Juan's. Juan's got a, his business. David's got multiple businesses. David, uh, Tony has multiple businesses. We're all very busy and very unique, and we needed someone that would be kind of the, the cog, uh, that, you know, that would really help put things together.

And God sent us, Lori, that was a fundamental miracle. Yeah. Uh, uh, just the, the greatest hire. And if you know Lori, she's just an amazing, amazing woman. Yeah. Amazing person. Yep. We are so indebted to her. And, uh, but you need a general manager, someone that runs the plays, calls the plays. I mean, that kind of wrangles your guys' crazy a little bit.

I could definitely see how like an hour meeting turns into three hours and we're talking about like something that doesn't really like, and we drive her crazy. So, yeah, I can back into that. Like, prairies up. Come on. Um, okay. I wanna know the, everything gets fixed. You're making that first run. Like, what does the process of making ice cream look at a commercial?

I think we all know, like if you've ever gone to church camp and you like roll some ice cream across in the coffee tin, like kick it back and forth with your partner, pretty good ice cream. But like you can't, that's not gonna serve gallons and gallons of what does it look like to make it at a commercial scale?

I mean, first of all, we had never did this, so I really didn't know what to expect, you know? And, uh. And Steve always said, you know, once this ice cream starts coming, it's gonna keep coming and coming. And it was like, holy cow. We're, you know, when's this stop? You know? Too much. Too much. Right. And, uh, you, so, but like, but like, take me through, like, you guys wake up and you're like, today's goatee, like this is, this is the day.

Yes. You like, get there, you find your clipboard, like you had to order like some chocolate like sauce or something. Yeah. You gotta have all your, so before production day Yeah. You have to be so set up, ready to go. You gotta have all your containers laid down. You need to have, make sure all your labels are there.

You gotta make sure your, uh, your boxes are ready. Yep. Do you have room in the freezers to even put, what are the ingredients that go in? Like what are we, like what is the raw. Material that then comes out in, ends, up in the, like, let's say if we're making the, the number one flavor Okay. The number one flavor, so we don't have to pasteurize because that's done.

Okay. Okay. By the time we get it. So that we start off with a base mix of which comes from Prairie Farms, which we partner with does well, where we get our mix from. Mm-hmm. Um, that is a base mix that's made up of a, a few different things. There's a formula there that they have hard formula secret. Secret formula.

That's exactly right. You don't need to know about it. Team. That's right. And that is, uh, way stuffed away in a safe, tucked away somewhere. Not a clipboard, not a, it would never be on a clipboard. A clipboard in public sight. No chance. No way. No way. Okay. So, so you get the, so you get the ba of each flavor.

Yeah. What, okay. So on a production day, I would say probably the most that you'll see us make in a flavor wise would be about six flavors, tops. Now it's better if you can make. Like two or three because like I said, that ice cream just keeps continually running. So, um, when you switch flavors, you're gonna have more waste.

So it's, it's, uh, if you can run less Yeah. When you run, it makes more sense. And, and does it all come in the base mix and like, but are there like mix mix-ins or anything you guys have to Yes. Like who's the mad scientist that's saying like, this might need some peppermint candies? Well, okay, so we have that recipe.

Yeah. Okay. The, then we go off of that recipe and it's important for us to stay like it was for a hundred years. Okay. Um, don't go off script. Yeah, no, absolutely. We want to, we want to continue that product and, and that's why it's important for us to do that. And one thing that we've implemented in production is.

When you are adding ingredients, you have whoever's beside you, double check and then maybe even have a third person double check. I mean, because when you're adding ingredients into that big of a batch, if you mess that up, you're losing thousands of dollars. Hey, like talk to me about what kind of things would be like, is this like two buckets of This is true.

Real strawberries. Okay. So we're talking like five gallon containers of strawberries and we're dumping, we're, they're frozen, so we let 'em fall a little bit and then you go in and you like mix it up and break it up a little bit and then you grab a little scooper and then that strawberries goes into what's called a fruit feeder that spins around and it takes actual true strawberries because we like to use those real, real good ingredients.

And especially as we're moving forward, we want to, like, that's something we're getting into right now is looking into more better ingredients. But those strawberries are true and they go right in there. It. It's pretty neat. It's awesome. Yeah, that's wild. And I think the ingredients, uh, you know, the, the, especially when we do the inclusions, really can make the, i, I mean, uh, you know, the pecans for Butter Pecan are really good.

They're Texas pecans. They're, I mean, they are really good pecans. The strawberries, the Georgia Pea peaches, I mean, we there just, there. It's, it's really good stuff. Uh, I mean, that's the base. The mix is good. Uh, and then the formula that the Glover's came up with, you know, uh, this amount and this amount and this amount, that's what makes it, I think so.

Um, good. And, and we have that 11%, 12% milk fat that really also is, um, that's not over the, over the top, but yet it's, it's, you know, it's good ice cream. I, I, we say this all the time, our ice cream melts because it's real. That's right. I'm like looking through flavors. Oh my gosh. We're talking the Peppermint Candy.

Looks fire. Mm. Orange Pineapple. That's interesting. That is an absolute fan favorite. Really? That's my second favorite. Oh yeah. What's your first one? Peppermint. Peppermint? Mm-hmm. Yeah, the Orange Pineapple is extremely unique. Uh, actually the lemon is fantastic as well. You would not think so? Uh, fun story.

Uh, my, my father-in-law had, uh, his uh, uh, 80th birthday party and we went down to French Lick. But before the, everybody got here, right? Uh, from Colorado and places, right. We had a milkshake party. An Orange Pineapple was an absolute monster of a hit. All the people in Colorado, the Cody's, my wife's family.

We gotta get this out here in Colorado. It's so unique. Wow. Pineapple's fantastic. I mean, the Deer Tracks would probably be my number one that just looks, you'd love it. That looks phenomenal. Oh, and pumpkin. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Very unique. Pumpkin. No, we're talking and Deer Tracks because we're, we're not in Montana, right?

We're, we're in Indiana, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Deer Tracks. Yeah, of course. I get you on that. Okay. So the, the first big day comes, you know, how did things go? Do we, do we have to scrap it all or does it end up working? No, it, it, it absolutely worked out. And, uh, gosh, it was, it was interesting just because I was trying to remember, you know, and just like Shane said, you know, I was walking around taking pictures of Steve and fall and video, you know.

And of course Steve's like, Hey, you need to put your phone down, you know, and it's just like, man, I have to figure this, figure this out. You know, because you're gonna leave us someday, right? You're gonna leave. I don't even know how to turn on this machine. You know? So I, I mean, I, I remember waking up that morning and, and wa going back through these videos, you know, trying to figure out like, what was I recording first and which valves do I need to turn on, and what's the pressure supposed to be at in the dasher?

And, uh, just a lot. So, um, having Steve there was, was massive because I mean, I would've been lost without that. But, uh, it, it all worked out. Thank the lord. What I love about what happened that the first day is that every, all of our family was, we had all of our family that showed up. And, um, it was, it was just a cool thing to see that, but one key ingredient in the ice cream that, uh, I think I, and I'm not trying to be to over the top a dramatic, but it really is love.

Because we, we, we love what we are doing. We love the, the product, and we, and we always say Love is in the middle of our name Glover's, you know, because we do love it. And it is something that is so, um, pa we're so passionate about, because we were talking about we want, we want every cup because we know it could be a memory.

We know it could be the first time that a, a grand kid, a grand a grandparent gives their kid that ice cream. Yeah. We want it to be a good experience. So it's not just about the ice cream. It really is about the, the, the, the memory that's being made and the relationships love's in the middle. I love that.

That was a good one. Uh, lovers is for lovers. Oh. Uh, and I, and I would say that also is backed up because there's easier ways to make money. I'm sure it's, you know, like if you see investments again on paper. There's a lot easier ways you could probably go park time, money, all things, but the fact that y'all came together and said like, this is something that the community needs.

And just like, there aren't that many a hundred year old businesses, and if we let 'em all go, then like, we're gonna run out a hundred year old businesses. Right. So I think that that, and it just shows being from a small town, it just means a little bit more, you know, it just is special and getting to be this next wave of stewards of this brand.

So Cool. It, it also shows your, or our kids, I mean, it shows them work ethic, you know? Yeah. Because they actually see you processing stuff in your mind, trying to figure stuff out and moving, moving, get stuff done, move faster, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And, and we, we had our, uh, a hundred year celebration in, in Frankfort, Indiana, uh, and, uh.

You know, Steve and his family were there. Uh, Steve and Kathy, their, their grandchildren. That was just emotional to see how much it meant to them. Shan's, grandchildren, Tony, do reel's, family, my brother's family, David Meek's family, uh, my, my family, right. And, uh, uh, you know, there, there's a great picture of of my, my, uh, my brother actually, uh, sings in a, in a, a band.

He, he sang, um, of my dad sitting in his wheelchair, uh, watching, uh, watching my brother, uh, with the Glover's logo in front of him and eating the ice cream. That's America. Uh, and that's in Indiana Story. That's an American story. And, uh, and, and you're right. I mean that, that cannot be bought. Uh, it can be right, but I can go and pick a stock right now and buy it.

It's not the same feeling. No, just isn't. Wow, I love it. I think that's so cool. And I think that one thing that small town Indiana does really well is building this, building generations of. Uh, people invested in their communities. Mm. Even if you no longer physically live there, when you grow up somewhere, like I always say bourbon was the best place to be from.

The best place to be from at this stage in my life of where I am today. Like career op, like different things. Like I'm not currently living there, but I will never say a bad word and I still have so much pride, uh, and want to be a contributor. And same thing with Frankfort, right? Yes, absolutely. Like you guys feel that same, uh, like Clinton County Pride, which I think is so, so cool.

What can we expect looking forward 2026 and beyond when we're talking all things Glover's ice cream? Yeah. Uh, and there's a little bit of call to action here to the Indiana community as well. Yeah. Um. We, we can expect a lot of things if we all do it together. I can name four, uh, Ohio based ice cream manufacturers off the top of my head.

In fact, Nate, I reached out to you, uh, with regards to one of them, uh, uh, being a, a primary focal point, one of your podcasts, and, uh, my reaction was Glover's is Indiana, right? We have to tell this Glover story. Thank you. Yeah, thank you very much. Of course, we, we can count on customers, um, where you can buy this product at IGA, uh, uh, stores at, uh, Schultz Market in Indiana, Greentown Market.

Where is that, David? Which town was that? Greentown, Indiana in Greentown, Indiana. Exactly right. Uh, so we, we are absolutely looking, if you're a local grocer, regional grocer, uh, call us. We wanna partner with you. If you wanna carry an Indiana product, we wanna partner with you. We, we count high schools, uh, if I've ever named your high school mascot, call them.

Well, there we go. Exactly. Valparaiso High School up North. Portage. Yeah. Uh, is a customer, Zionsville where I resides. Right. Clinton Prairie Rossville, Michigan City. Then down south, you know, cathedral. Is a customer, right? So ARDS gotta come to the table. Uh, excuse me, Trojans, what are we doing? Yeah. Right. Um, and, and Lori has, uh, hit the, hit the ground running and with Elwood recently and, uh, Franklin Central, the flashes love that community.

Beach Grove. Beach Grove. I mean, there's many that I haven't even named, uh, the Concess Grand Corporations and Environments. Grand Park is an amazing partner. Uh, and, and, uh, uh, you know, and pretty soon this is breaking news, right? We are re fostering Foster re fostering relationship with Purdue University, uh, and we will get that going, uh, ASAP, uh, from a great conversation that Lori and my brother Juan had just yesterday.

Yeah. Uh, here's my, here's a call and I know that someone who listens to this podcast will direct this in the right place. So currently the official cookie of. Gainbridge Fieldhouse is plea and thank you pleas and thank you is based outta Louisville. It's an awesome entrepreneurial story, like very, very cool.

I think please and thank you needs an accompaniment Amen. In the Fieldhouse from a local Indiana brand. Amen. I agree. I'm not gonna say that I'm gonna like be the exec one to make it happen, but I know that someone who listen to the show could, could just point that clip in the right direction. Amen. In the field house in Lucas, in Lucas Oil Stadium, Victory Field, I mean the new facility Noblesville, we're and Fort Wayne.

Fort Wayne's an amazing community. Yeah. And you know what, so is Evansville. I mean, it sounds good. Come home. Um, I love it. So as stewards as Hoosiers, what we can do to support y'all is whether it's you're running a concession stand at a high school or different organizations, like what are the, what are the specific call to action that you have?

Like, what can we do as Hoosiers to help support lovers besides like, go to Frankfort and buy the ice cream at the factory? Yep. And not, and not, and obviously not just Frankfort, I mean, a lot of other places. So just like Tony was saying, you know, if you're a grocery store or a bakery or a high school, like we, what's the dream account?

If we could snap our fingers and get Glover's in anywhere in Indiana, where, where do we want it? I, I gotta tell you, all the accounts are very important to us, and I know that's a generic answer, but it's the truth. They all are. So we've got in, I, I've, I, I got us a, uh, freezer one time in a, a farm and it's a decent sized farm that I don't even know how many employees he, this guy has, but uh, I think he's restocked four times already.

You know, like, so a lot of people, things that you wouldn't even imagine. They need ice cream. And I, I would go off a a, I would take it a little direction, not maybe different direction, but I was just down at a fun park. You'll, you'll probably know who this is, uh, Rascals over at White Land. Yeah. You gotta, you gotta go see Brad and Jeff.

They actually offered, they said if I ever needed to film at like a, a fun park or whatever, they come Well, I'll tell you, you talk about the same kind of passion and mindset. Yeah. But one of the things that, you know, we, we, you know, we go in and they're, they've got a different kind of ice cream there and most of the, most of the ice cream that are, most of the companies that we deal with are buying because of price.

And we get that. We totally understand that you've gotta, you've gotta make the bottom line work. But there is something about being able to support each other as Hoosiers and being able to, um, raise that banner of another local or small town business and say, yes, it may cost us a little bit more, but we support local because we believe in local and we believe in Indiana.

And so to me, that's probably more than just having a one particular dream place to go, is that if all of Indiana could just recognize and support each other, and it's, and it's, it's like you said, it's, it's what happened. It's what makes Indiana because mm-hmm. We do do it. But I think sometimes the Amazons and all of the big corporations, sometimes it's just convenient.

Yeah. And I think we need to, we need to be able to grow our next generation as not always. Focus on the convenience, but focus on the relationship. Yeah. Amen. Uh, I'll, I'll add to that, right? We, we, we have current dream customers like Beef & Boards. Oh yeah. We love Beef & Boards. They're great people.

Exactly. Great people. Right? Um, I mean, Grand Park is an amazing, uh, customer, uh, of ours. We, we have them, we are looking for more in Indiana, and I'm gonna tell you, but I'm gonna answer it in a wild, wild, crazy way as well. We, we are expanding county by county, uh, and kind of rewriting the story, just like the, the Glover's did, right?

And because we had to start. I knew we just said that we didn't make ice cream for three months until we bought it. Right. So we're we continue to expand. Um, Hey, Shaq, if you're listening right? You were spending some time in Frankfort, Indiana. You've got your name on everything, brother. Yeah. All right. How about, how about Frankfort, Indiana?

Again, we'll make a flavor for, we'll make a flavor for Shaq. I'm in you guys, so, so, so, right. I mean, big slices is how you cut the cake. Okay. Shaq, let's know. All right. Avid, avid listener of the pod. Exactly. Avid listener. Yes. And, and, and a Hoosier who had a lot of fun in Frankfort, Indiana. I'm, don't you?

Yeah. The burger Louisiana originally, right? Oh, yeah. I'm a, I love it. Uh, gentlemen, it's an incredible story. The, the Glover's brand is lucky to have, uh, faithful Clinton County residents like yourselves to help carry this generation on. From or carry this business on to the next generation, a hundred years thus far, a hundred years to go, and a hundred years after that.

I'm really excited. We do have some fun Indiana questions to, to kind of go through at this portion of the show where we get to talk all things Indiana. So this first question is brought to you by our friends at J.C. Hart. They're a leader in creating enjoyable living experiences at apartment communities all across Indiana and beyond.

Check them out at homeisjchart.com. My question, we're gonna start with Shan and work this way. Why do you call Indiana home? I'm a Hoosier by choice and because, first of all, uh, I love the seasons. I love having four seasons growing up in the south, Louisiana, and then my dad was a construction worker.

We traveled all over the country, lived in some great places, lived in Wyoming, lived in Texas. Awesome. But it's the people, I, I say it over and over, I love the seasons, but there's nothing like, uh, just the, the, the, the Indiana people, I call 'em the good cornbread people, uh, because we grow a lot of corn.

But the bread is, is the bread, is what we consider bread of life. It's what we, it's our sus, you know, that we, yeah, we eat bread. Um, and the, the people of Indiana are like that. Yeah, they're good cornbread. I call 'em cornbread because they're so, they're just good people that will be willing to do, uh, the stop and help you with a flat.

I mean, I've seen that. I've seen people willing to, to sacrifice. And so for me it's the people. Yeah. David, I agree with Shan. I mean, it's the people, the little small towns, the corn fields, um, the, the people. I mean, for sure. Yeah. It, it's such a, a down home feeling. That's the best way I can explain it. Yeah.

It, it just feels so down home, uh, uh, that and Indianapolis Colts are the greatest franchise, sports franchise of all time. Bar Go when Gym s sings, you know, used to sing back home again in Indiana. I mean, there, there, there is a stirring in you because I think you're right. It's home. Yeah. Yeah. It's, for me, it's home.

Okay. We're gonna start here and go back this way. Now, if you could snap your fingers in, in one flavor, whatever flavor you wanted was just out in the wild, what new flavor would you create? I love citrusy stuff. That's why I love the lemon, the Orange Pineapple. But, but I'm gonna go a different direction.

Uh, I, I'd love some sort of like, uh, uh, Hispanic flavor, like churro. I mean that, right? Something like that. Che. Oh, that one Che. Oh, what, what's the cake? Uh, tres leches cake. tres leches. Yeah. So something like that, that, that is, uh, you know, uh, maybe not associated with Indiana in general, but doesn't it make you feel warm churro?

Yeah. Right? Sure. Come on, David. Um, you know, I'd have to say, like earlier when I said when we're making ice cream, when we switch flavors, there's waste. Okay? So with that waste. Um, I actually don't save this. Try to save it. Don't save. Right. So I save that and, uh, I'll take that home and me and my family will eat it.

So it's, I'll take, I'll take it home. It's funny because when I switched from making cookie dough to cookies and cream. I had these containers that I brought home that had the mixture in there, cookie dough, cream. Oh, well, I had, I've got four kids. Okay. So, uh, my youngest daughter and her friend are sitting around the table and eating ice cream, and they immediately eat that.

And they're like, what flavor is this? And I was like, well, that's just stuff we mixed up, you know? And, and her friend looked at me and she was like, this is amazing. You, what was it? I said it was cookie dough going into cookies and cream. But, you know, I can't put any nutritional facts on it because it's just kind of a big slop of stuff, you know?

And, uh, she just looked at me and she's only, I don't know, 12 looked at me and said, um, you should call this Cookie Catastrophe. Wow. That's, we'd have to, we'd have to spell it though. Yeah. Yeah. That's showbiz right there. Yes. Whole Cookie Catastrophe. Yeah. And the taste was ama, I mean, I loved it. It was awesome.

Wow. Wow. Cookie Catastrophe. Yeah. I love that. That's actually how Neapolitan got created was at the waist. Really? I have no idea. I made it up. Maybe that's a good kind of checks out. Right. Alright, Shannon, what's yours? Well, I'm, I'm gonna kind of play off of David. I, 'cause I'm a Louisiana guy, gumbo, I make a lot of go.

I make gum. In fact, I'll be making gumbo Friday for our big office party. But we've got, uh, I think. The same way you, you just, you, we, we mix stuff all the time, but I love caramel. Uh, the almond joy that we make is pretty good. So I always kind of thought if we put some caramel swirl and maybe in that almond joy, which has got a, that dark chocolate little coconut with caramel, uh, that'd be pretty good.

I dunno what we'd call it, but, uh, but maybe, maybe just some good gumbo ice cream that you got a mixture of, a variety of different, uh, uh, flavors. But yeah. And that, that's the great thing about this company too, is that we're, you know, we wanna listen and people, you know, if they wanna give us some ideas and flavors and people do, uh, we're we're, and we're trying to move more in that direction to be able to do those kind of things.

Uh, 'cause it's not easy, uh, when you're dealing with 1939 and 1940, uh, machines. But, uh, what, yeah, those are old machines, but, uh, they, they get the job done. I have three questions that I ask everyone that comes on the show before I get there. I think that everyone in the state knows Frankfort. Specifically because of the high school mascot, there's constantly lists saying like, the funniest mascot in the country, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Like, which is a really fun thing to be known for, you know, like having a fun high school mascot. But I wanna ask each of you, we'll start with Shannon, come back this way. Uh, what does it really mean to be from Frankfort? When I went, when it came to Frankfort, I didn't even know anything about I, I'm a football guy.

Football, football, football from the south. When I first came to Frankfort, I was told, you know, have you been to a basketball game yet? And I said, uh, no. But I, and I like basketball. I, I, I played basketball. Uh, but no, I've not been to a basketball game. So one of the, uh, the, the local business people, uh, got me sectional tickets to Case Arena and, you know, 5,500 screaming people.

And it was packed. It was jammed. Pack and, uh, it was unbelievable. The, the atmosphere was just so incredible. And it was, you know, prairie playing. Uh, everybody wanted, all the county schools wanted to take Frankfort down. And so it's that, um, you know, for me, for Frankfort, it's, it's the county seat. It's the, they're the big town in our county, but all these other little communities that surround them, Rossville, Michigan, down Kirkland, Colfax, uh, and Rossville, uh, and Mulberry.

All of these little communities that surround everybody who's kinda looking at Frankfort is the, is the big dog. To me, it's, it's, it's that competition and that desire to, to be better. It, it, it's all of that. I love that. I wish I could go back to unseated, uh, or unclassed UNC basketball. Unc Yeah. Yeah, because they talk about the same thing down in like Du Bois County, all these places where like, because the local towns were just all coming together and it was, you know, uh, whether it be Clinton Prairie or Clinton Central, or whoever it is trying to take down, when you come at the hotdog, you better not miss.

Right. Well, and Everett and Everett Case was a, I mean, the history of Everett Case, who was Everett Case? Well, Everett ca you've got to learn about Everett Case. Oh, I gotta learn about Everett Case. So Ev so that's what Case Arena. We're the, you know, we're the largest high school dome in the state. So our dome is named after Everett Case.

Everett Case, um, is the, is the gentleman that started the cutting of the nets. He, he moved to a CC, he cre helped create the a CC. He coached at North Carolina State. Uh, you have look up Everett Case. It's a pretty, pretty incredible journey with Everett Case. Yeah, I knew that the, that the arena in, in Frankfort was named Case Arena.

Yeah. But that's okay. I'll put that all together and I'll do a little deep dive on it. Yeah. Okay. We're gonna say Clinton County, so not Frank's, because he's a Ross. Ross, he's a Hornet. But what does it mean to be from Clinton County? Well, I mean, obviously the first thing I think of is Rossville because that's where I grew up and was raised, and, and I love it.

And I think like Tony and Shane, I mean, like they do with Frankfort. It's the greatest place in the world, I mean, with the best people around. And then when you factor in, uh, any basketball, I mean, the hornets are, like I said earlier, you're gonna see more of 'em coming. And we, we played in, or when we play at Case Arena, like she's saying it's, the memories are crazy there.

Sectionals were the best, especially when there was no class, you know, like no class basketball. It was amazing. So yeah, I absolutely loved Clinton County. Tony, I, I've got, I've got two answers, if that's okay. Yes, sir. Uh, the second one's extremely personal, but let me, let me, lemme hit on the basketball side too.

Um, Case Arena's amazing. Everett Case, uh, went from Frank for, won four state titles and went on to North Carolina State. He also, uh, founded the, the, the tournament, uh, style. Uh, right, you. You can honestly link March Madness to him because he started the a CC tournament. Uh, I went to the Purdue Final Four, I stuck in North Carolina State fans, and they were like, how do you know so much about North Carolina State?

Because I knew about Everett Case. Mm-hmm. Everett Case, um, was also a gentleman that would recruit. Uh, and I'm gonna get back. I'm gonna, I don't wanna give there yet, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna go to that personal side in a second. Uh, that single class basketball, uh, guys like Eric Wall, I still consider him a friend.

Um, guys like Rush McCauley, Chris Cru. I mean, these guys took down Carmel High School in that stadium in 1995, the last year in the regionals. And then these are my friends. I didn't play basketball. Uh, but they're my friends. And they took them down. That is special. And by the way, you know, Rossville, I mean, they were taking their best shots against F Frankfort.

Yeah. I mean, they, they knew like Clinton Central, Clinton Prairie, these guys are gonna come play us. 'cause we were the big dogs. But taking down Carmel was an amazing thing. And I was astute. I was a colleague Right. Then Brownsburg came in and beat us, uh, right. For the final, and, you know, the rest is history.

Um, here's the, the personal side. I'm in Ohio, uh, in Columbus and a new soccer facility. My three daughters play, play soccer. Uh, and, uh, behind me is the train tracks and the, the train is loud. Right? And a lot of these facilities are not built by train because what do you do with that land? Nobody wants to live by there.

Well, they're supporting facilities. And I, I saw the logo of the train, Norfolk Southern. My dad worked for Norfolk Southern. Let's tie it back to Foster. All right. Uh, the reason my dad has the ability. Even with the health conditions, my mom, they can stay at their own house. We're all a kid from somewhere.

I'm from Second Street and South. That's where I'm from. And I'll, I'll always be from there. Uh, lived in Mexico for a while too as a kid. My brother and I did. Those were amazing memories. But I'm from second Street and South Street, just right down from ARD school. My dad made his living at the railroad at that same depot where Foster Glover innovated.

Hmm. Uh, what does Frankfort mean to me? It does mean the underdog. It does mean never giving up. It does mean working class. It does mean the diamonds in the rough that are true diamonds. And I can think of many men and women from Frankfort that are like that, that have a fighting spirit. And this was a way for me to give back.

And I cannot wait to give back more to Frankfort. I don't live there now. Uh, but I, I will say this, uh, at the end of the day, that's what it means to me. Blue collar. Waking up every single day. I mean, I still remember this about my dad's lunch pail and what it smelled like and it smelled like earned hard work providing for your family.

That's what Frankfort means to me. Yeah. And Frankfort's known as the Gym City. So I think, and I think the great thing about that is that Frankfort has produced a lot of great gyms like Tony and his brother Juan, and they have gone out and they're great ambassadors for our community, although we live in Clinton County, still day Tony and myself.

But it is, it's, it is the gym city. They've, it's produced a lot of great gyms. Thanks, Tony. That's, that's really. Impactful. Um, I have a fun, I have a fun tie in that Tony's gonna absolutely love. So, Everett Case born 1900. He's born in Anderson. He graduated from the University of Wisconsin Madison in 1923, he compiled a 726 and 75 record while coaching 23 years in high school basketball, including winning four Indiana State Championships while coaching the Frankfort Hot Dogs.

That's right, right. 1925. 19 29, 19 36, 19 39. Frankfort's Case Arena is named after him. He's one of only five coaches to win at least four state titles in Indiana basketball history. Incredible. In 1941, he enlisted in the US Navy. Yes. Uh, he ended up, you know, going through Annapolis for four weeks of training Chicago.

This is what Tony's gonna love in 1943. The DePauw University Tigers began a naval flight preparatory school. And who would go on to be the athletic director of that program? Everett Everett Case. So it all comes back to the Tigers baby. Let's go. I say that because Tony is a, uh, a Wabash College player.

Wabash always fights, and, uh, while wasn't our day the other day, we're gonna be there. There you go. It's, it's our bell guys. Come on. I love it, man. This was spectacular. I have one final question for each of you that we, as we round this out, where you get to share a little bit about the state of Indiana that more people need to know about.

More people need to be talking about. Tony, we're gonna start with you. What is a hidden gem in Indiana, but I think Turkey Run. Is absolutely amazing. I really believe that place is, uh, you know, uh, Sam was talking about cornbread, lots of corn fields as we know Southern Indiana less, but lots of corn fields.

Uh, I feel like you're in Turkey Run. It's like, this is Indiana. I'm at a second one though. Uh, because, uh, it's now a national park. Uh, the Indiana Dunes, first time we drove over, like you, you pay and you go up and you go up over a little hill and I remember my daughter saying, seeing the water. This is Indiana.

Yes it is. Yeah. So, wow. Hotel Rossville. 'cause that is definitely a hidden gym hotel. Rossville. Yeah. So what is Hotel Rossville? hotelrossville.com. Check it out because that is a Oh my goodness. Hotel Rossville. I feel like I'm missing something here. Well, I grew up in Rossville, so. Mm-hmm. Just like you're talking about bourbon.

One thing that, uh, me and my wife did, which I'm so thankful for her because she's been a big part of Glover's too. But she has one thing that, uh, we did is we bought an old building downtown and actually converted it into a nice Airbnb. This is sick. Yeah. So now I've brought people in from all over the nation and, uh, two different countries that have actually stayed in Rossville, Indiana.

Who shot this video for you? Uh, it's really good. My, my wife, uh, my daughter did some of that, but my wife had, gosh, I can't remember who she had do that. That's really good. Wow. Hotel Rossville. I love it. Yeah. Thanks. That's a, the signage on the side too. That's phenomenal. By the way, speaking of his daughter Kate, she's so talented.

Look up Kate's Carts real quickly. Yeah. K-A-T-E-S. She is a partner of Glover's. K-A-R-T-S does ama amazing events serving our ice cream. Uh, right. So, uh, uh, katescarts.com. katescarts.com, and you gotta type it in there. K-A-T-E-S, KRTS, Beck's enjoyed Kate's Carts and glover's ice cream recently. And that, I mean, David, you walked away loving that, that environment.

Phenomenal. Sunny Beck and his family. I absolutely don't know him, but, gosh, my, my wife works in culture and that is an amazing, that's an amazing Indiana brand. So it is, it's funny 'cause my daughter, her name's Kate, obviously Kate's Carts, um, she came to me and she said, Hey, I, I want to, uh, I'd like to talk to you and your partners, you know, and I was like, okay, what about, you know, said, well, I want to sell, sell the ice cream.

I said, okay, well, we're meeting, all of us partners are meeting Wednesday morning. She comes in and we sit down and she just said, Hey, listen, I don't, I'm not asking for any favors, um, but I wanna start selling ice cream and I'd like to put your logo on my freezer. You know. And of course she's my daughter, so I'm behind her a hundred percent.

But, uh, so she's taken off and started her own little business at 19 and she goes to Purdue University as well. No way. Yeah. That's sick. Yeah. Yeah. And it, it was really cool because B Hybrids ended up calling and they were like, Hey, is your daughter available? Uh, the week after next? I said, well, you're gonna have to get with her.

You know, she runs her own little gig here and uh, next thing you know, she's down at serving ice cream in their President's club. I love that. So my, one of my best friends, his, uh, well, she's also one of my best friends, Taylor. She started, uh, it's called Indulge, and it is a. A camper that she serves ice cream out.

Oh, cool. Yeah, that's, so she serves, uh, and does like all the corporate events or whatever up in northern Indiana up by South Bend and it's a cool gig and you can do pretty well if you get into the corporate gift. Oh, I love that. Kate's Carts. Yep. Uh, that's spectacular. I'm on her website right now, does it?

Yep, that's it. Look at that. That's a sweet rig. It. Come on. That's a vintage cart that she bought at. Got it. On Facebook. Marketplace outta Chicago. I love that. Uh, Shan what is your hidden gem in Indiana? Well, it's, it's multiple because to, for me, it's the state parks. I think we have some of the greatest state parks.

I know, I know Tony said Turkey Run. Uh, my wife and I, and a lot of our church family will go down to Clifty Falls. What, what I love about the state parks is Indiana does a great thing about, you know, you buy one night, you get the next night free from November to March, which in the state ends, and a lot of people don't know about that.

No. And, and it's, it's an awesome experience for kid because it's the off season, but not just for kids, but even for maybe, uh, seniors or, or retirees. But if you buy one night, you get the next night free from November through March at any of our state ends. And the state ends are just awesome. I, I applaud Indiana.

Uh, and, you know, I grew up in the Bayou and you have some great, you know, hunting and fishing and all of that, but Indiana has these little hidden gems. We have the, we have an observatory in our county, uh, the, uh, Prairie Grass Observatory. And, uh, it's the, uh, fifth largest observatory. In the, uh, in the state of our, in the Midwest.

And that it really, so that's another one of those hidden gems. I mean, I have this, uh, you've got the profile book, discover Clinton County. I'm gonna be learning all about old Stoney and whether there is or is not a tunnel below there is, there is a tunnel. And, uh, all the other fun things happening up there is a tunnel.

We can confirm. There is a tunnel. There is a tunnel. The tunnel has been closed off between, uh, one side or the other. But my wife grew up in, uh, Frankfort, went to school there. And that's how you went from the middle school to the high school, was through the tunnel. Can you imagine being able to walk under a state road and go to your classes and through a tunnel underneath?

Yeah. It was awesome. The, the, the, the county jail is on the other side is Old Stoney, but it was the old, uh, junior high that was there where Case, that's where Everett Case won the state. That's where Everett exactly. And when they, when they were tearing it down. Uh, a group of hoodlums, uh, that I hung out with.

Maybe I might've been there. We might've gone into that tunnel actually. Oh, I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe. I know. I can't confirm it. I dunno, what's, what's the statue of limitations on that Exactly. TBD uh, gentlemen, it was a pleasure getting to sit down and learn all about the 100 year history of Glover's ice cream.

It's awesome to see the passion that y'all have for a local business that is Clinton County grown, that has been doing this in the sweet business for over a hundred years now. I'm really excited to see all the growth. I'm really excited to see all the different places in Indiana that you guys are gonna be going to in 2026 and beyond.

And I think that, uh, I'm not a part of the community, but I can sense your passion for Clinton County. I can sense your passion for Frankfort and Rossville, and I think that, uh. If all of us just took a little time to be as dedicated to our communities as you are to your communities, the world and the state of Indiana would be a very, very good place.

So thank you for that. You have, you have an open end. Welcome anytime, Nate. All right. You heard here, we'll get you, we'll get you a good pork burger from shoes. Oh, oh yeah. You heard here, we might have to be. Go to a sectional game for the hot dogs, baby. Let's go. Um, I appreciate y'all coming in. If people wanna find Glover's ice cream, where can they buy it?

Where can they follow it? Where can they do all those things? Our social media, uh, uh, Lori does a great job. Kate does a great job. Our social media is, they're all over the place. Instagram, Facebook. Mm-hmm. Um, we, uh, we really try to, uh, TikTok, I mean, we do all kind of videos. I mean, it, it really is fun. We, we, we're not quite as, uh, uh, big as you Nate, but, uh, we're, we're trying.

We're trying. So we want you to follow us and we appreciate all those. But just, uh, check us out. Go to our website, gloversicecream.com. Uh, and you'll, you'll, um. You'll find all kinds of things out. We will be rolling out a, uh, fresh website here within a few weeks. Hey, the boss says something like that, so that means it's coming out.

Shop chat gentlemen. We all know Lori's the boss. Lori's the boss. Yeah, she's all right. Well, hey, we appreciate y'all and we'll talk soon. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This show is made possible by our friends up at Sweetwater. Whether you're looking to start a podcast or take your content to the next level, click the link in the description to see all my gear recommendations at Sweetwater.

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